<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Discipline&#8217;s Tier 10 4-piece Joke</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/</link>
	<description>Practical advice for World of Warcraft healers and leaders</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:13:30 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Healing Changes in 3.3.3 &#171; Type &#34;H&#34; For Heals</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26761</link>
		<dc:creator>Healing Changes in 3.3.3 &#171; Type &#34;H&#34; For Heals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26761</guid>
		<description>[...] change for priests is that the Tier 10 4-Piece Set Bonus has been changed. This has been discussed elsewhere already , so I&#8217;ll refer elsewhere for the detailed discussion. The short version is that the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] change for priests is that the Tier 10 4-Piece Set Bonus has been changed. This has been discussed elsewhere already , so I&#8217;ll refer elsewhere for the detailed discussion. The short version is that the [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Xeonio</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26560</link>
		<dc:creator>Xeonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26560</guid>
		<description>Talk about a loaded post!  I wouldn&#039;t say it is misleading in anyway.  It&#039;s Thes&#039; opinion and while we might not agree with it there are people who heal in his style.  I thought the original 4p t10 bonus for Discipline was... less then exceptional because of the heavy spirit on the tier gear and since the proc could easily come at an inopportune time it make it nearly worthless.  It certainly seemed much neater for Holy priests (because of the longer CD on CoH and the much higher chance it would be a useful proc) but I still opt&#039;d to go for better itemization than take my chances with a proc.

I made a post about this as well, (http://reztheweak.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/t10-4p-change-discuss/) and my main point is that going with a generic bonus like this is certainly not what is wanted (imo).  I&#039;d much rather see something neat that makes you think and possibly leads to a new playstyle.
.-= Xeonio&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://reztheweak.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/totem-knocks-priest-unconscious/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Totem knocks priest unconscious!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a loaded post!  I wouldn&#8217;t say it is misleading in anyway.  It&#8217;s Thes&#8217; opinion and while we might not agree with it there are people who heal in his style.  I thought the original 4p t10 bonus for Discipline was&#8230; less then exceptional because of the heavy spirit on the tier gear and since the proc could easily come at an inopportune time it make it nearly worthless.  It certainly seemed much neater for Holy priests (because of the longer CD on CoH and the much higher chance it would be a useful proc) but I still opt&#8217;d to go for better itemization than take my chances with a proc.</p>
<p>I made a post about this as well, (<a href="http://reztheweak.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/t10-4p-change-discuss/" rel="nofollow">http://reztheweak.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/t10-4p-change-discuss/</a>) and my main point is that going with a generic bonus like this is certainly not what is wanted (imo).  I&#8217;d much rather see something neat that makes you think and possibly leads to a new playstyle.<br />
.-= Xeonio&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://reztheweak.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/totem-knocks-priest-unconscious/" rel="nofollow">Totem knocks priest unconscious!</a> =-.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: About T10 &#171; The Mediocre Priest</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26527</link>
		<dc:creator>About T10 &#171; The Mediocre Priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26527</guid>
		<description>[...] change is causing a lot of discussion (Divine Aegis, World of Matticus 1 and 2, are the probably the best summaries) &#8211; but going into that is not the goal of this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] change is causing a lot of discussion (Divine Aegis, World of Matticus 1 and 2, are the probably the best summaries) &#8211; but going into that is not the goal of this [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Eldain</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26499</link>
		<dc:creator>Eldain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26499</guid>
		<description>Your post is qq without much reason to back it up. 

The change is a good one because the 2 and old 4 set belonged in the trash. I really love beening in a 5 minute fight of HM Blood Queen and see the 4 set piece proc twice. Ya I&#039;ll i take 5% more renew any day of the week. 

On top of that take look at all top parseing disc priests and see what they do is pw:s, not penenace because pallys are  much better tank healers. 

You should consider deleteing your post because it is misinforming and misleading on a good change that will help priests be more competive on raid heals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post is qq without much reason to back it up. </p>
<p>The change is a good one because the 2 and old 4 set belonged in the trash. I really love beening in a 5 minute fight of HM Blood Queen and see the 4 set piece proc twice. Ya I&#8217;ll i take 5% more renew any day of the week. </p>
<p>On top of that take look at all top parseing disc priests and see what they do is pw:s, not penenace because pallys are  much better tank healers. </p>
<p>You should consider deleteing your post because it is misinforming and misleading on a good change that will help priests be more competive on raid heals.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dahk</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26497</link>
		<dc:creator>Dahk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26497</guid>
		<description>Entr0p - I registered as Dahk on the DV forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entr0p &#8211; I registered as Dahk on the DV forums.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Entrop</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26495</link>
		<dc:creator>Entrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26495</guid>
		<description>@Matt, im not sure all who you were talking to, but i know of a lot of end game priests who do not care for the current 4pc t10.  It is sad that it has only been recently that ive started to post in more public places, but i can assure you that the current 4pc isn&#039;t worth using considering all the other gear options out there.  Yes it might be a fun 4pc but its not really worth it for disc.

@Zusterke i think most would take the helm, only because it has crit instead of haste, and you can get nice haste/crit legs from either crafting or 10man(10man heroic).

@Panzee one thing you have to remember is that those are estimated absorbs so just slapping on 5% can be both undervaluing the effectiveness of the bonus as well as overvaluing its usefulness in a raid application.  Also this is thinking that the 5% is applied after all buffs, which may or may not be the case.

@wikwocket afaik they plan on change alot of the disc tree, which hopefully both holy and disc can come to some agreement on what stats they prefer.  I think the biggest difference between holy and disc right now is the use of spirit,  in disc, i would be happy to drop all of it and continue to use double solace.

@padre you need disc priest at end game content, all ill say on the matter.

@rulez i dont think its a huge nurf to disc.  yes throughput on mt healing might go down, but i think its overall applications to many other disc priests will go up.

@huffy yes i agree i think that many guilds dont rely on disc priest (entirely) to mt heal, disc priest provide a very very very very nice buffer between big hits so pallies can land their 1.2 HLs.

@Thespius well i am one priest who doesn&#039;t think that the 4pc is espeically helpful for hardmodes, in either spec, maybe its because of my play style, but honestly i could be wearing all offset pieces and still achieve the same goal.

@Azzur badges come quick enough ^_^

@Burlyn what &quot;higher end priests&quot; are actually really enjoying the current 4pc?  And more specifically what encounter is it really helpful on?  Like, i will admit that i am currently wearing the 4pc 264 for some fights, but that is only because it has the most sp available to me to make my shields as big as possible.

@Dahk if you want more information about the current hardmodes find a way to contact me, i can try and post you so logs and other things like that to show you the numbers i put up.

Anyway, im just trying to play a bit of the devils advocate here, trying to show a perspective that isnt always represented in these blogs and forums.  I do apologize if i do come off as a bit of an elitist, i know that i am one and so I apologize for it.  Anyway what i post here are my own opinions so yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt, im not sure all who you were talking to, but i know of a lot of end game priests who do not care for the current 4pc t10.  It is sad that it has only been recently that ive started to post in more public places, but i can assure you that the current 4pc isn&#8217;t worth using considering all the other gear options out there.  Yes it might be a fun 4pc but its not really worth it for disc.</p>
<p>@Zusterke i think most would take the helm, only because it has crit instead of haste, and you can get nice haste/crit legs from either crafting or 10man(10man heroic).</p>
<p>@Panzee one thing you have to remember is that those are estimated absorbs so just slapping on 5% can be both undervaluing the effectiveness of the bonus as well as overvaluing its usefulness in a raid application.  Also this is thinking that the 5% is applied after all buffs, which may or may not be the case.</p>
<p>@wikwocket afaik they plan on change alot of the disc tree, which hopefully both holy and disc can come to some agreement on what stats they prefer.  I think the biggest difference between holy and disc right now is the use of spirit,  in disc, i would be happy to drop all of it and continue to use double solace.</p>
<p>@padre you need disc priest at end game content, all ill say on the matter.</p>
<p>@rulez i dont think its a huge nurf to disc.  yes throughput on mt healing might go down, but i think its overall applications to many other disc priests will go up.</p>
<p>@huffy yes i agree i think that many guilds dont rely on disc priest (entirely) to mt heal, disc priest provide a very very very very nice buffer between big hits so pallies can land their 1.2 HLs.</p>
<p>@Thespius well i am one priest who doesn&#8217;t think that the 4pc is espeically helpful for hardmodes, in either spec, maybe its because of my play style, but honestly i could be wearing all offset pieces and still achieve the same goal.</p>
<p>@Azzur badges come quick enough ^_^</p>
<p>@Burlyn what &#8220;higher end priests&#8221; are actually really enjoying the current 4pc?  And more specifically what encounter is it really helpful on?  Like, i will admit that i am currently wearing the 4pc 264 for some fights, but that is only because it has the most sp available to me to make my shields as big as possible.</p>
<p>@Dahk if you want more information about the current hardmodes find a way to contact me, i can try and post you so logs and other things like that to show you the numbers i put up.</p>
<p>Anyway, im just trying to play a bit of the devils advocate here, trying to show a perspective that isnt always represented in these blogs and forums.  I do apologize if i do come off as a bit of an elitist, i know that i am one and so I apologize for it.  Anyway what i post here are my own opinions so yeah.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Build Your Chicken House With These Fascinating Steps &#124; Start a Fresh Water Aquarium Review</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26486</link>
		<dc:creator>Build Your Chicken House With These Fascinating Steps &#124; Start a Fresh Water Aquarium Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26486</guid>
		<description>[...] Discipline&#8217;s Tier 10 4-piece Joke &#124; World of Matticus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Discipline&#8217;s Tier 10 4-piece Joke | World of Matticus [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ArticleAmigo! &#187; Music Tutors: They&#8217;ll Always Have a Job!</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26481</link>
		<dc:creator>ArticleAmigo! &#187; Music Tutors: They&#8217;ll Always Have a Job!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26481</guid>
		<description>[...] Discipline&#039;s Tier 10 4-piece Joke &#124; World of Matticus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Discipline&#39;s Tier 10 4-piece Joke | World of Matticus [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tankette</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26475</link>
		<dc:creator>Tankette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26475</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m usually bubble spamming when I go Disc with some FH and Penance mixed in. I&#039;m not using Penance every CD so the old 4 piece bonus wasn&#039;t a big turn on. The buffed bubbles will be more beneficial.

As Holy, I hit Renew a lot so the extra 5% will be useful.  But I do use CoH every CD so the old tier bonus would have been quite useful as well.

My problem is I have only seen 1 tier token drop for Priests, Pallies and whoever else. One of the Pallies grabbed it with higher DKP. So most of the time I wear my 264 EoF gear + crafted legs instead of the 251 tier pieces. I switch to using the 251 gloves and shoulders when I go Holy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m usually bubble spamming when I go Disc with some FH and Penance mixed in. I&#8217;m not using Penance every CD so the old 4 piece bonus wasn&#8217;t a big turn on. The buffed bubbles will be more beneficial.</p>
<p>As Holy, I hit Renew a lot so the extra 5% will be useful.  But I do use CoH every CD so the old tier bonus would have been quite useful as well.</p>
<p>My problem is I have only seen 1 tier token drop for Priests, Pallies and whoever else. One of the Pallies grabbed it with higher DKP. So most of the time I wear my 264 EoF gear + crafted legs instead of the 251 tier pieces. I switch to using the 251 gloves and shoulders when I go Holy.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dahk</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/03/04/disciplines-tier-10-4-piece-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-26471</link>
		<dc:creator>Dahk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=7468#comment-26471</guid>
		<description>I was just trying to be a little funny about splitting the healing Tier for priests. I know its not going to happen, and once Cata hits, the stat changes will probably make it unnecessary.

I don&#039;t think Spirit is worthless for Disc. I just don&#039;t want every piece loaded with it. 

I am really interested in this talk about how good the current bonuses are in HM&#039;s. Just looking at US servers, less than 400 guilds are even able to attempt HM&#039;s (25) yet. That is a microscopic slice of the raiding population. I am sure with the ever increasing buff that will change significantly. Does anyone have any combat logs or data showing an &quot;exponential level&quot;. Or is this just conjecture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just trying to be a little funny about splitting the healing Tier for priests. I know its not going to happen, and once Cata hits, the stat changes will probably make it unnecessary.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Spirit is worthless for Disc. I just don&#8217;t want every piece loaded with it. </p>
<p>I am really interested in this talk about how good the current bonuses are in HM&#8217;s. Just looking at US servers, less than 400 guilds are even able to attempt HM&#8217;s (25) yet. That is a microscopic slice of the raiding population. I am sure with the ever increasing buff that will change significantly. Does anyone have any combat logs or data showing an &#8220;exponential level&#8221;. Or is this just conjecture?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Page Caching using disk: enhanced
Database Caching 9/35 queries in 0.018 seconds using disk: basic

Served from: www.worldofmatticus.com @ 2012-02-09 05:44:10 -->
