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	<title>Comments on: Ranking Players with Elitist Group</title>
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		<title>By: Sarii</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-27771</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 06:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers for the updated info Shadowed. I will look into it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for the updated info Shadowed. I will look into it. <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shadowed</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-27764</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadowed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 17:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EG does, EA does not. EG can&#039;t work around that fact, but if you&#039;re really that worried about alt/main experience then you can just install the ElitistGroupSender addon which does nothing but respond to EG comms, but nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EG does, EA does not. EG can&#8217;t work around that fact, but if you&#8217;re really that worried about alt/main experience then you can just install the ElitistGroupSender addon which does nothing but respond to EG comms, but nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarii</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-27747</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 08:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shadowed 

They did but afaik one needed to have the addon installed. Please correct me if I&#039;m wrong on this.</description>
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<p>They did but afaik one needed to have the addon installed. Please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Shadowed</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-27746</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadowed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 07:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, guess I still am subscribed to comment updates.

Both ElitistArmory and ElitistGroup let people show experience per main on their alts, and have for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, guess I still am subscribed to comment updates.</p>
<p>Both ElitistArmory and ElitistGroup let people show experience per main on their alts, and have for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarii</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-27745</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 07:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tool is most powerful when held right. This goes for anything in life. The people who use gs-inflation or go strictly by you need x achieve or v gs show what they want out of the raid. Ie. people wanting a fast and run clear, is there any wrong in that? People wanting to learn bosses without never being there before, is there any wrong in that? It&#039;s a decent addon and can be very useful for setting up things, but there is one thing that it will never replace and that&#039;s the human intuition. 

I don&#039;t know about many people here but after raid leading butt loads of times, one can kinda tell about certain people from how they act. I&#039;m not saying I haven&#039;t been wrong but more than not I have nailed this person dead on. 

The only downside is when going on an alt or on your main who hasn&#039;t done Y place. Afaik there is no way to show it. So it still boils down to this for quite a few others  :( Link Achiev and GS or no response. Wonder if they actually check the link .. hmmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tool is most powerful when held right. This goes for anything in life. The people who use gs-inflation or go strictly by you need x achieve or v gs show what they want out of the raid. Ie. people wanting a fast and run clear, is there any wrong in that? People wanting to learn bosses without never being there before, is there any wrong in that? It&#8217;s a decent addon and can be very useful for setting up things, but there is one thing that it will never replace and that&#8217;s the human intuition. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about many people here but after raid leading butt loads of times, one can kinda tell about certain people from how they act. I&#8217;m not saying I haven&#8217;t been wrong but more than not I have nailed this person dead on. </p>
<p>The only downside is when going on an alt or on your main who hasn&#8217;t done Y place. Afaik there is no way to show it. So it still boils down to this for quite a few others  <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Link Achiev and GS or no response. Wonder if they actually check the link .. hmmm?</p>
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		<title>By: Addon &#8211; Elitist Group &#171; Don&#39;t Stand in the Fire</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-25830</link>
		<dc:creator>Addon &#8211; Elitist Group &#171; Don&#39;t Stand in the Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smeedsc</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-25808</link>
		<dc:creator>smeedsc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@matt 
hahahha I didnt even realize that you made the image. heheh ok yeah you loose some points for accuracy but I get the point, just up that t10 by 2-5k 
=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matt<br />
hahahha I didnt even realize that you made the image. heheh ok yeah you loose some points for accuracy but I get the point, just up that t10 by 2-5k<br />
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		<title>By: JdJdJd</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-25805</link>
		<dc:creator>JdJdJd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tebla, Thanks. So far I haven&#039;t had anyone complain a lot. Half of every group I&quot;m in is always guildies/friends anyway. I did lose agro a couple of times last night but people were patient and we had a blast anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tebla, Thanks. So far I haven&#8217;t had anyone complain a lot. Half of every group I&#8221;m in is always guildies/friends anyway. I did lose agro a couple of times last night but people were patient and we had a blast anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Wikwocket</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-25803</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikwocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rating people with a number is not nice, but presenting their gear, and their achievements, for your review is a good way to get a ballpark guesstimate of who you&#039;re dealing with. Thanks for brining ElitistGroup to more peoples&#039; attentions!
.-= Wikwocket&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://holyform.blogspot.com/2010/01/disc-tips-lord-marrowgar.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Disc tips: Lord Marrowgar&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rating people with a number is not nice, but presenting their gear, and their achievements, for your review is a good way to get a ballpark guesstimate of who you&#8217;re dealing with. Thanks for brining ElitistGroup to more peoples&#8217; attentions!<br />
.-= Wikwocket&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://holyform.blogspot.com/2010/01/disc-tips-lord-marrowgar.html" rel="nofollow">Disc tips: Lord Marrowgar</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Xeeon</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2010/01/18/ranking-players-with-elitist-group/comment-page-1/#comment-25802</link>
		<dc:creator>Xeeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hate the mods that spam you when you&#039;re using the wrong rank of abilities. I had a few guildies run my alt warlock through some LK dungeons, and their mods kept spamming me because I was using low spell ranks. At the time, I had just literally hit 80 as the invites went out and hadn&#039;t had time to train. For some reason, my friends couldn&#039;t get their mods to stop spamming me.

My main problem with GS and similar mods is the Scoreflation created by raid leaders. They continue to inflate the scores or dps values they want in their raids when a raid say Naxx10 really doesn&#039;t need 5.5k dps. Raid leaders just say that because they want a quick clear or badge farm; or to make the false assumption that dps are scores translate to situational awareness and skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hate the mods that spam you when you&#8217;re using the wrong rank of abilities. I had a few guildies run my alt warlock through some LK dungeons, and their mods kept spamming me because I was using low spell ranks. At the time, I had just literally hit 80 as the invites went out and hadn&#8217;t had time to train. For some reason, my friends couldn&#8217;t get their mods to stop spamming me.</p>
<p>My main problem with GS and similar mods is the Scoreflation created by raid leaders. They continue to inflate the scores or dps values they want in their raids when a raid say Naxx10 really doesn&#8217;t need 5.5k dps. Raid leaders just say that because they want a quick clear or badge farm; or to make the false assumption that dps are scores translate to situational awareness and skill.</p>
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