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	<title>Comments on: PTR: Fond Friend or Venomous Vixen??</title>
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		<title>By: jeffo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shameless plug time: I had written my own blog post about the PTR here: http://lkingformore.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-ptr-is-here-new-ptr-is-here.html

Except for the Wrath beta, I generally don&#039;t do PTR&#039;s, but I do value information that comes out of them. Unfortunately, most of the info that comes out while the PTR is actually up isn&#039;t that helpful. We get a lot of info about what the new zone/raid looks like, we here about new loot, and the fact that there are still no new dance moves, but we don&#039;t hear about how the latest apparent nerf/buff to our favorite class works in the new environment. When 3.2 was in the PTR, I couldn&#039;t find out any information about how the Illumination nerf was actually working out. That&#039;s the kind of think I *really* want to learn from PTR&#039;s.

Of course, it *is* nice to walk into an instance or raid on patch night and have some clue of what to expect. I just wouldn&#039;t want it to be &#039;ho-hum&#039; on Day 1 because I&#039;ve done it ad infinitum on the PTR.
.-= jeffo&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://lkingformore.blogspot.com/2009/10/know-it-all-man.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Know-It-All Man&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shameless plug time: I had written my own blog post about the PTR here: <a href="http://lkingformore.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-ptr-is-here-new-ptr-is-here.html" rel="nofollow">http://lkingformore.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-ptr-is-here-new-ptr-is-here.html</a></p>
<p>Except for the Wrath beta, I generally don&#8217;t do PTR&#8217;s, but I do value information that comes out of them. Unfortunately, most of the info that comes out while the PTR is actually up isn&#8217;t that helpful. We get a lot of info about what the new zone/raid looks like, we here about new loot, and the fact that there are still no new dance moves, but we don&#8217;t hear about how the latest apparent nerf/buff to our favorite class works in the new environment. When 3.2 was in the PTR, I couldn&#8217;t find out any information about how the Illumination nerf was actually working out. That&#8217;s the kind of think I *really* want to learn from PTR&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Of course, it *is* nice to walk into an instance or raid on patch night and have some clue of what to expect. I just wouldn&#8217;t want it to be &#8216;ho-hum&#8217; on Day 1 because I&#8217;ve done it ad infinitum on the PTR.<br />
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My concern with the PTR is that I absolutely hate having progress wiped.  I don&#039;t mind wiping for hours on raid progression.  I understand that we all play, in the end, for the love of the game, but I have a big problem with working toward a goal with &quot;nothing to show for it.&quot;  Even if that progress is only found in the form of a token or a meaningless achievement I can link, at least my progress is not totally wiped.

I have that problem with game demos, too.  And trials.  I like to have some sort of progress I can save or start over from if I want to.  

Mainly, I don&#039;t like repeating content, which is why I&#039;m not an altoholic in WoW.
.-= Professor Beej&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ProfessorBeej/~3/KQYtRNwlRrM/excuse-me-while-i-kiss-my-bride.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Excuse Me While I Kiss My Bride&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My concern with the PTR is that I absolutely hate having progress wiped.  I don&#8217;t mind wiping for hours on raid progression.  I understand that we all play, in the end, for the love of the game, but I have a big problem with working toward a goal with &#8220;nothing to show for it.&#8221;  Even if that progress is only found in the form of a token or a meaningless achievement I can link, at least my progress is not totally wiped.</p>
<p>I have that problem with game demos, too.  And trials.  I like to have some sort of progress I can save or start over from if I want to.  </p>
<p>Mainly, I don&#8217;t like repeating content, which is why I&#8217;m not an altoholic in WoW.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Professor Beej&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ProfessorBeej/~3/KQYtRNwlRrM/excuse-me-while-i-kiss-my-bride.html" rel="nofollow">Excuse Me While I Kiss My Bride</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I enjoy the PTR and try to get on it as often as I can. I have players in my guild who refuse to &quot;spoil&quot; the feeling for them. You know, that feeling of awe and stuff when you reach a truly majestic boss of some sort?

I get that feeling before everyone else on the PTR. This way, when I see them on live, I can let everyone experience it while I&#039;m busy setting out what needs to be done. I&#039;d rather do the learning in an isolated environment where it didn&#039;t matter as much. Remember, we only have a certain amount of time during raid cycles before the next content patch arrives. The bigger the headstart I can have, the better. This helps increase the odds that my guild and I will be able to complete the content within a reasonable amount of time. 

I know it&#039;s not going to be world first or server first or anything and I&#039;m okay with that. But I know there are some guilds to this day that haven&#039;t not been able to down the Keepers or Yogg or anything like that. I don&#039;t want to have an organization that emerged too slow. We missed out on over half of the hard modes in Ulduar and some of that was was my fault. I&#039;ll take every edge I can get from advanced learning.

Plus having detailed healing boss strategy on the day the raid instance comes out does wonders for blog traffic.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I enjoy the PTR and try to get on it as often as I can. I have players in my guild who refuse to &#8220;spoil&#8221; the feeling for them. You know, that feeling of awe and stuff when you reach a truly majestic boss of some sort?</p>
<p>I get that feeling before everyone else on the PTR. This way, when I see them on live, I can let everyone experience it while I&#8217;m busy setting out what needs to be done. I&#8217;d rather do the learning in an isolated environment where it didn&#8217;t matter as much. Remember, we only have a certain amount of time during raid cycles before the next content patch arrives. The bigger the headstart I can have, the better. This helps increase the odds that my guild and I will be able to complete the content within a reasonable amount of time. </p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s not going to be world first or server first or anything and I&#8217;m okay with that. But I know there are some guilds to this day that haven&#8217;t not been able to down the Keepers or Yogg or anything like that. I don&#8217;t want to have an organization that emerged too slow. We missed out on over half of the hard modes in Ulduar and some of that was was my fault. I&#8217;ll take every edge I can get from advanced learning.</p>
<p>Plus having detailed healing boss strategy on the day the raid instance comes out does wonders for blog traffic.</p>
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