Comments on: Tier 10 Healing Bonuses http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/ Practical advice for World of Warcraft healers and leaders Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:13:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hymna http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-26199 Hymna Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:01:43 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-26199 After som extensive testing of the shaman bonuses i can pretty much say the t10 bonuses are one of the best ones ever! on a full ICC raid, Marrowgar -> Sindragosa, the 4 set bonus proc healed a total amount of 1,45 mill, with 3755 ticks of about 400 healing each with 70,9% uptime, that concludes about 7,5 of my total healing done for the full run, pretty decent for a set bonus It really shines on fights like BQL where it was 10% of my healing done doing 215k healing alone with 93% uptime. I must say im very satisfied. :) After som extensive testing of the shaman bonuses i can pretty much say the t10 bonuses are one of the best ones ever!

on a full ICC raid, Marrowgar -> Sindragosa, the 4 set bonus proc healed a total amount of 1,45 mill, with 3755 ticks of about 400 healing each with 70,9% uptime, that concludes about 7,5 of my total healing done for the full run, pretty decent for a set bonus

It really shines on fights like BQL where it was 10% of my healing done doing 215k healing alone with 93% uptime.

I must say im very satisfied. :)

]]> By: Toops http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-23839 Toops Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:48:55 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-23839 To all those who say that WG takes up a huge proprtion of raid healing is way OTT. It's as generous to a druid's raid healing as any other of the healing classes' second best heals (esp in regard to shamans and priests). And this is partly the point: WG should not at the present time be top of healing meters because Rejuv is so much more powerful atm. Most of the Resto druids i've seen simply spam WG no end with no concept of its strategic significance - moreover as a buffer for direct healing classes. At present I have the glyph of Wild Growth that allows one extra person to benefit from it, but no way is it at the same level as rejuv on healing meters. I was looking at the healing meters for last night's TOC 25 Hard modes and for both the Holy Priests and Resto Shamans, their second best heals were as good as than my WG. So to say it's overpowered means you really don't take heed of what a druid is really capable of because if your resto druid's top heal is constantly WG, then ofc you're going to think it's OP when in reality they should be getting better heals with rejuv making WG much less overpowered. To all those who say that WG takes up a huge proprtion of raid healing is way OTT. It’s as generous to a druid’s raid healing as any other of the healing classes’ second best heals (esp in regard to shamans and priests). And this is partly the point: WG should not at the present time be top of healing meters because Rejuv is so much more powerful atm. Most of the Resto druids i’ve seen simply spam WG no end with no concept of its strategic significance – moreover as a buffer for direct healing classes.
At present I have the glyph of Wild Growth that allows one extra person to benefit from it, but no way is it at the same level as rejuv on healing meters.
I was looking at the healing meters for last night’s TOC 25 Hard modes and for both the Holy Priests and Resto Shamans, their second best heals were as good as than my WG. So to say it’s overpowered means you really don’t take heed of what a druid is really capable of because if your resto druid’s top heal is constantly WG, then ofc you’re going to think it’s OP when in reality they should be getting better heals with rejuv making WG much less overpowered.

]]> By: Canedom http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-23794 Canedom Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:44:39 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-23794 The 4pc Holydin bonus's have very, very little value. Divine Favor itself is very rarely used. Depending on the duty you've been assigned, its often put into a 3 - heal combo where you pop it, use Holy Shock then an instant FoL. And thats only in an emergancy healing situation. The 2pc serves very little purpose to assist in this because if these emergancies come up that often(which they might, its always possible) either the encouter in question is very, very tank healing intensive, your tanks aren't properly gearing themselves or geared enough, or there is some larger healing issue that needs work. Overall, a very wasteful bonus. The 4pc bonus is just as bad, because Holy Shock is generally used for either emergancy healing, or healing on the move. Neither of which would provide an opportunity afterwards to cast a Holy Light and a 0.3 reduction in cast time, while good, would not make up for the two FoL you could cast in that time. In general, the modern Holy Paladin is often using FoL more and more, and on fights where the tank damage ramps up(Gormok HM comes to mind as a current content example) it would probably be a better use of a GCD to begin casting your next Holy Light rather then waste a Holy Shock then begin casting a Holy Light. Depending on the stats and itemization of tier pieces come T10, I don't see many Holy Paladins jumping for their 4piece over other non-tier pieces But, Blizz could always change it and bad set bonus's aren't limited to just Holy Paladins either, the Prot Paladin ones go from "meh" to terrible that, if the stats weren't such a large upgrade, I'd rather keep 4piece T9. The 4pc Holydin bonus’s have very, very little value. Divine Favor itself is very rarely used. Depending on the duty you’ve been assigned, its often put into a 3 – heal combo where you pop it, use Holy Shock then an instant FoL. And thats only in an emergancy healing situation.
The 2pc serves very little purpose to assist in this because if these emergancies come up that often(which they might, its always possible) either the encouter in question is very, very tank healing intensive, your tanks aren’t properly gearing themselves or geared enough, or there is some larger healing issue that needs work. Overall, a very wasteful bonus.

The 4pc bonus is just as bad, because Holy Shock is generally used for either emergancy healing, or healing on the move. Neither of which would provide an opportunity afterwards to cast a Holy Light and a 0.3 reduction in cast time, while good, would not make up for the two FoL you could cast in that time.

In general, the modern Holy Paladin is often using FoL more and more, and on fights where the tank damage ramps up(Gormok HM comes to mind as a current content example) it would probably be a better use of a GCD to begin casting your next Holy Light rather then waste a Holy Shock then begin casting a Holy Light. Depending on the stats and itemization of tier pieces come T10, I don’t see many Holy Paladins jumping for their 4piece over other non-tier pieces

But, Blizz could always change it and bad set bonus’s aren’t limited to just Holy Paladins either, the Prot Paladin ones go from “meh” to terrible that, if the stats weren’t such a large upgrade, I’d rather keep 4piece T9.

]]> By: smeedsc http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-23772 smeedsc Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:51:43 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-23772 I miss the days of farming up mats, and praying for abom stitchings to get a badass 4th out of 8 pieces. I dont mine the tier bonus, but they really dont have the meaning they once had. hell now as disc / holy I have the t9.25 set but am bustin ass to get the haste gear out of that place, because as I flip roles alot due to guild needs the holy part of that set sucks ass. if I wanted to spam rejuv i'd be a druid, which also brings me to... no offense syd, my wife is a tree. =) but wtf, lets buff rejuv and wg spam more? its not op enough?? /me shoots self for using 8 spells at least while healing. /me rolls tree I miss the days of farming up mats, and praying for abom stitchings to get a badass 4th out of 8 pieces.

I dont mine the tier bonus, but they really dont have the meaning they once had.

hell now as disc / holy I have the t9.25 set but am bustin ass to get the haste gear out of that place, because as I flip roles alot due to guild needs the holy part of that set sucks ass. if I wanted to spam rejuv i’d be a druid, which also brings me to… no offense syd, my wife is a tree. =) but wtf, lets buff rejuv and wg spam more? its not op enough??

/me shoots self for using 8 spells at least while healing.
/me rolls tree

]]> By: Sydera http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-23769 Sydera Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:18:43 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-23769 I may make a post on this, but I feel that set bonuses should be a thing of the past. Take a look at the priest ones--the 4pc has a potential to be very, very restrictive in terms of the priest's "best" rotation. The druid ones work together to make Rejuv/Wild Growth spam the best way to go. And I thought they wanted us to use all the tools in the box? I think we need to have set pieces that equal "offset" pieces in overall stat allocation and have no bonuses at all. The benefit of the "set" should be the look of a set. Offset pieces should look different --maybe plainer? Offset pieces should prioritize different stats--say, crit heavy, or haste heavy, or spirit heavy. That would give people multiple options in looks as well as stat allocation. I may make a post on this, but I feel that set bonuses should be a thing of the past.

Take a look at the priest ones–the 4pc has a potential to be very, very restrictive in terms of the priest’s “best” rotation.

The druid ones work together to make Rejuv/Wild Growth spam the best way to go. And I thought they wanted us to use all the tools in the box?

I think we need to have set pieces that equal “offset” pieces in overall stat allocation and have no bonuses at all. The benefit of the “set” should be the look of a set. Offset pieces should look different –maybe plainer? Offset pieces should prioritize different stats–say, crit heavy, or haste heavy, or spirit heavy. That would give people multiple options in looks as well as stat allocation.

]]> By: smeedsc http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-23768 smeedsc Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:54:40 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-23768 Thank god they changed the priest one, found on MMO champion. Quote from: Bornakk (http://blue.mmo-champion.com/27/20140813501-tier10-bonuses-feedback.html) Priest * 2 piece bonus - Your Flash Heal critical strikes cause the target to heal for 25% of the healed amount over 9 sec. * 4 piece bonus - Your Circle of Healing and Penance spells have a 20% chance to cause your next Flash Heal cast within 6 sec to reset the cooldown on your Circle of Healing and Penance spells. Paladin * 2 piece bonus - While your Divine Illumination talent is active, your healing spells are increased by 35%. * 4 piece bonus - Your Holy Shock spell causes the next Holy Light you cast within 10 sec to have 0.3 sec reduced cast time. Thank god they changed the priest one, found on MMO champion.

Quote from: Bornakk (http://blue.mmo-champion.com/27/20140813501-tier10-bonuses-feedback.html)
Priest

* 2 piece bonus – Your Flash Heal critical strikes cause the target to heal for 25% of the healed amount over 9 sec.
* 4 piece bonus – Your Circle of Healing and Penance spells have a 20% chance to cause your next Flash Heal cast within 6 sec to reset the cooldown on your Circle of Healing and Penance spells.

Paladin

* 2 piece bonus – While your Divine Illumination talent is active, your healing spells are increased by 35%.
* 4 piece bonus – Your Holy Shock spell causes the next Holy Light you cast within 10 sec to have 0.3 sec reduced cast time.

]]> By: Binya http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-23742 Binya Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:37:37 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-23742 As a Disc Priest, I'm sort of in love with these bonuses. <3 .-= Binya´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.binya.org/etain/?p=611" rel="nofollow">Let’s Talk About T10 Bonuses</a> =-. As a Disc Priest, I’m sort of in love with these bonuses. <3
.-= Binya´s last blog ..Let’s Talk About T10 Bonuses =-.

]]> By: Priest Tier 10 Set Bonuses « Lenelie’s Voice http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-23739 Priest Tier 10 Set Bonuses « Lenelie’s Voice Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:03:45 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-23739 [...] World of Matticus-  Matt also takes a look at the other healing classes’ set bonuses as well. [...] [...] World of Matticus-  Matt also takes a look at the other healing classes’ set bonuses as well. [...]

]]> By: smeedsc http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-23735 smeedsc Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:45:46 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-23735 aye, artoo, I just checked the tooltip on the glyph, you are correct, I never glyph for it, and usually am disc, I had sworn I read a tooltip about the glyph and the one minute thing being based on health as well as being consumed. I appreciate the clarification. however, fact remains, its still shit :P aye, artoo, I just checked the tooltip on the glyph, you are correct, I never glyph for it, and usually am disc, I had sworn I read a tooltip about the glyph and the one minute thing being based on health as well as being consumed.

I appreciate the clarification.

however, fact remains, its still shit :P

]]> By: Derevka http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/10/07/tier-10-healing-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-23731 Derevka Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:37:34 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=6289#comment-23731 @Canes Of course... but this set bonus really makes it a trinket. I'm really unimpressed. Don't mind me I'm still QQing about all the casual catering lately. Yeah... I'm elitist, and I;m ok with that. .-= Derevka´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TalesOfAPriest/~3/GAe7VXk0ylg/closing-doors.html" rel="nofollow">Closing the doors....</a> =-. @Canes

Of course… but this set bonus really makes it a trinket. I’m really unimpressed. Don’t mind me I’m still QQing about all the casual catering lately. Yeah… I’m elitist, and I;m ok with that.
.-= Derevka´s last blog ..Closing the doors…. =-.

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