Comments on: Seven Ways to Your Raid Leader’s Heart

By: Orcstar

Orcstar — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:11:20 +0000

Actually I find signing up systems often to be stupid.
In our situtation:
We’re a raiding guild, everyone fills in a little form on the recruitment page and one of the questions is: we raid 4 times/week. This this that and that day, can you come.

I’ve never ever seen a recruit who answered no.
Sometimes a “yes” often times a “that’s no problem I can make those times easy” and sometimes a “I never log out only when server resets I’m not online”.

So, in my image: everyone can come everyday and we recruit on that so on raiding day………everyone should be there.
Except………….when you can’t.

SWo I’m trying to change things in my guild to get a “sign down” system. You said when you joined that you could come all days: let us know when you can’t come.

Also I think a sign up system sends a wrong message. It sends a message that you can choose from the raiddays the days you like most.
NO. You signed up to be a raider and are expected to be there.

Just like a soccer team: you call when there’s an exception and you can’t come. For the rest you’re expected to show up.

(oh yeah, I heard it’s an undocumented feature that you get a big haste buff while standing in the fire )

By: Binya

Binya — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:18:44 +0000

Ninja AFK’ing and Attitude issues saw 2 members of the guild I’m in (in which I’m an officer) removed. There’s only so many times you can call for someone over Ventrilo, PM’s, *and* raid chat without them answering that it starts to irritate you- and the rest of the raid- to no end (not to mention hearthing to Ironforge after a wipe without a word to anyone in the raid, only to respond “I’m going to level my enchanting”… yes that really happened).

Attitude is the other one. My guild is a laid-back, casual, we-raid-for-fun guild, and people who come in and get all hardcore and negative because someone peed in their cheerios this morning are really not tolerated- especially when it’s directed at the newer raiders on a run, whose mistakes may be from pure inexperience.
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By: Upyursh

Upyursh — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:42:31 +0000

very relevant post, just linked on our guild forums as we have had issue with people signing for raids. We also just relaxed our rules for Ulduar as it’s pretty much on farm but found that people responded with ninja afks and attitude
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By: Posolutely

Posolutely — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:28:18 +0000

You forgot one… Dump it before you pull it… Aggro that is.

Its not as bad these days, but there are still fights (especially as a warrior, hey, I get rage starved sometimes) where DPS can pull aggro. Please. Please Mr Hunter, Feign before you make Onyxia spin and cleave and breathe all over the healers you stood in the middle of.

By: We Fly Spitfires

We Fly Spitfires — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:08:08 +0000

Great article and all excellent points I wish more people would pay attention to that sort of stuff! Bottom line is that I think a lot of people don’t take raiding seriously and don’t care which is a shame because it can create a lot of stress and ruin it for other people. It’s all about managed, constructive fun!
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By: Professor Beej

Professor Beej — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:07:40 +0000

I have never understood how people can stand in the fire. Really. How oblivious to their surroundings can people be? It makes me scared becaus if those people don’t pay attention during their hobbies, when they SHOULD by all rights be paying the most attention becuase they are doing something they choose to do, what hope do any of us have when they’re, say, driving along and something happens suddenly that requires their attention, such as a sudden braking while driving?
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By: Pothos

Pothos — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:40:51 +0000

I’d give up almost everything on the list if people would stop standing in fires….
That being said, proper signups and pre-repairing are high points on my raids.

By: Deevyne

Deevyne — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:57:49 +0000

All of the above!!!!

Not to mention the chronically late people those that assume they don’t have to be on time because they can be summoned.,or the people who “borrow” something during a raid and for some reason feel they don’t have to pay it back. Where is that written??

By: Lodur

Lodur — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:22:07 +0000

@kimboslice I run “nanny” mods like obituary and ensidia fails. I make it known that I use said items. I don’t have to use it with my raiders (thankfully) as they all own up to their mistakes, but it helps break the habit you just described early. (just letting them know you run it not necessarily having it report to raid)

By: Kimboslice

Kimboslice — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:11:59 +0000

My biggest pet peeve is people not owning up to their mistakes

I would much prefer someone to say “ya that was me and it won’t happen again I will fix it” then staying silent and hoping no one noticed