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		<title>By: Jafari</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/09/28/the-hybrid-pedigree/comment-page-1/#comment-23652</link>
		<dc:creator>Jafari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This came up during a PUG run in Naxx, I was a moonkin, in an arachnid quarter run.  I saw that the poisons were not being dispelled, so I went ahead and did it, and announced it in vent.  When I rolled on the drop, someone said something about how I was so &quot;fail&quot; at dps, but quickly shut their trap when the raid leader (who was very happy that I saved him from an embarrasing wipe) asked that person how many poisons they dispelled.  I won the roll :D.

I like the hybrid role, when it is properly appreciated by the raid leader.  I don&#039;t like it when it leads to being called a &quot;fail&quot; dps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This came up during a PUG run in Naxx, I was a moonkin, in an arachnid quarter run.  I saw that the poisons were not being dispelled, so I went ahead and did it, and announced it in vent.  When I rolled on the drop, someone said something about how I was so &#8220;fail&#8221; at dps, but quickly shut their trap when the raid leader (who was very happy that I saved him from an embarrasing wipe) asked that person how many poisons they dispelled.  I won the roll <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>I like the hybrid role, when it is properly appreciated by the raid leader.  I don&#8217;t like it when it leads to being called a &#8220;fail&#8221; dps.</p>
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		<title>By: Lysenis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lysenis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put together. As a Shaman Healer there have been many times where my Hex or grounding totem have come in handy. Really and truly playing a Hybrid class tests ones ability to adapt on the go making them some of the best classes to play. I have gone from Healer to DPS and back in a single night that it becomes second nature. 

I do not think I could not play anyother type of toon but a Hybrid they just feel right.

-Lys</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put together. As a Shaman Healer there have been many times where my Hex or grounding totem have come in handy. Really and truly playing a Hybrid class tests ones ability to adapt on the go making them some of the best classes to play. I have gone from Healer to DPS and back in a single night that it becomes second nature. </p>
<p>I do not think I could not play anyother type of toon but a Hybrid they just feel right.</p>
<p>-Lys</p>
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		<title>By: Hollicow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollicow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I raid as a tree and solo/daily quest as a boomkin, so I am pretty familiar with the tools of those two specs.

If I am called upon to dps in a raid or a 5 man I still find myself watching grid like a hawk, and sometimes drop my feathers to fire off a heal or 3.  (tranquility on the black knight, for example). 

The thought of jumping into cat form or bear form hardly ever enters my head - unless it is to cat dash past frogger mark 2 in Uldaur.

But honestly unless it is an emergency I don&#039;t see using offspec abilites.  I would not try to heal in my boomkin spec and gear for any period of time, because that way lies a desert with no mana in sight.  Equally the few balance dps spells I have while in tree form are unlikely to tip the scales of a fight.

But in an emergency having that utility is one of the many things that make a druid very fun to play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I raid as a tree and solo/daily quest as a boomkin, so I am pretty familiar with the tools of those two specs.</p>
<p>If I am called upon to dps in a raid or a 5 man I still find myself watching grid like a hawk, and sometimes drop my feathers to fire off a heal or 3.  (tranquility on the black knight, for example). </p>
<p>The thought of jumping into cat form or bear form hardly ever enters my head &#8211; unless it is to cat dash past frogger mark 2 in Uldaur.</p>
<p>But honestly unless it is an emergency I don&#8217;t see using offspec abilites.  I would not try to heal in my boomkin spec and gear for any period of time, because that way lies a desert with no mana in sight.  Equally the few balance dps spells I have while in tree form are unlikely to tip the scales of a fight.</p>
<p>But in an emergency having that utility is one of the many things that make a druid very fun to play.</p>
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		<title>By: Guessur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guessur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ORCSTAR
&quot;I want people with brains, who can make good decisions but also have trust that their team does the job&quot;

Thank you.  That was one of my main points.  Listen to the Raid leader.  If he/she&#039;s good, you will get epics.  I&#039;m not sure how you can raid lead you way through an emergency with a broken mic.  Smart players help those situations a lot; especially if the raid is used to eachother.  Communication is key as to when a hybrid class should assume a new role.

@KIVULI
If that&#039; the way your raid/guild does Gluth, that&#039;s fine.  But as I was saying, that&#039;s the way that the fight was setup, and that&#039;s what makes hybrids an interesting addition to the raid.  Rouges, Locks, Mages and Hunters are the only &quot;pure&quot; classes in WoW.  They can do only fulfill one role with all three of their specs - dps.  Druids and pallys are the staples of the hybrid classes.  They can fulfill the roles of tank, heal and dps.

@TapDancing
Sounds like you saved the day, as hybrids are know to do at times.  I&#039;d have expected your raid leader to have noticed that and called out for extra help on heals.  I&#039;m a perfectionist.  People that die in that fight... must not be paying attention.. especially healers.

@Windsoar
The only fight I perferred the mages to decurse was Sarth due to the amount of raid healing that had to be done.  With three mages, they each only had to desurse twice or so per curse phase.  I also set up our raids with only 5 healers on that fight instead of the more popular 6 healer set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ORCSTAR<br />
&#8220;I want people with brains, who can make good decisions but also have trust that their team does the job&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you.  That was one of my main points.  Listen to the Raid leader.  If he/she&#8217;s good, you will get epics.  I&#8217;m not sure how you can raid lead you way through an emergency with a broken mic.  Smart players help those situations a lot; especially if the raid is used to eachother.  Communication is key as to when a hybrid class should assume a new role.</p>
<p>@KIVULI<br />
If that&#8217; the way your raid/guild does Gluth, that&#8217;s fine.  But as I was saying, that&#8217;s the way that the fight was setup, and that&#8217;s what makes hybrids an interesting addition to the raid.  Rouges, Locks, Mages and Hunters are the only &#8220;pure&#8221; classes in WoW.  They can do only fulfill one role with all three of their specs &#8211; dps.  Druids and pallys are the staples of the hybrid classes.  They can fulfill the roles of tank, heal and dps.</p>
<p>@TapDancing<br />
Sounds like you saved the day, as hybrids are know to do at times.  I&#8217;d have expected your raid leader to have noticed that and called out for extra help on heals.  I&#8217;m a perfectionist.  People that die in that fight&#8230; must not be paying attention.. especially healers.</p>
<p>@Windsoar<br />
The only fight I perferred the mages to decurse was Sarth due to the amount of raid healing that had to be done.  With three mages, they each only had to desurse twice or so per curse phase.  I also set up our raids with only 5 healers on that fight instead of the more popular 6 healer set up.</p>
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		<title>By: tapdancingNuns</title>
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		<dc:creator>tapdancingNuns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, I agree all hybrids should have a flexible mindset, but I think it mostly applies to 5 man and 10 man content.  For example, on our first Vezax 10 kill 2 out of our 3 healers called oom at ~5% and we didn&#039;t have any vapors remaining.  Me, you&#039;re local friendly neighbor hood Moonkin did a quick rejuv and a few Nourish on the tank just to keep him up long enough for us to finish him off and get the first kill.  Should I have had to drop form and heal, probably not, but it did get us our first kill ;D

So, in short I don&#039;t go looking for opportunities do drop form and heal, but if it&#039;s me throwing a few heals out or a &gt;5% wipe, I think I&#039;ll heal for a bit.

Also, our healers don&#039;t suck, this was our first kill and with everything there is a learning curve for the whole raid =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, I agree all hybrids should have a flexible mindset, but I think it mostly applies to 5 man and 10 man content.  For example, on our first Vezax 10 kill 2 out of our 3 healers called oom at ~5% and we didn&#8217;t have any vapors remaining.  Me, you&#8217;re local friendly neighbor hood Moonkin did a quick rejuv and a few Nourish on the tank just to keep him up long enough for us to finish him off and get the first kill.  Should I have had to drop form and heal, probably not, but it did get us our first kill ;D</p>
<p>So, in short I don&#8217;t go looking for opportunities do drop form and heal, but if it&#8217;s me throwing a few heals out or a &gt;5% wipe, I think I&#8217;ll heal for a bit.</p>
<p>Also, our healers don&#8217;t suck, this was our first kill and with everything there is a learning curve for the whole raid =D</p>
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		<title>By: Hockey &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shadow Priests Are Allowed to Divine Hymn &#124; It burns when I PVP &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hockey &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shadow Priests Are Allowed to Divine Hymn &#124; It burns when I PVP &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Silk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Mime,

I am not sure I agree though.  I think hybrids that have a &quot;healing&quot; mindset (ie always looking for that needed heal) are usually either

(1) healing unnecessarily; or
(2) propping up underperforming tanks and heals.

Rarely do they find that perfect moment in my experience.

I posted a longwinded further response on my blog :)
.-= Silk&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://silkwow.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/whats-a-hybrid-good-for/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Whatâ€™s a hybrid good for?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Mime,</p>
<p>I am not sure I agree though.  I think hybrids that have a &#8220;healing&#8221; mindset (ie always looking for that needed heal) are usually either</p>
<p>(1) healing unnecessarily; or<br />
(2) propping up underperforming tanks and heals.</p>
<p>Rarely do they find that perfect moment in my experience.</p>
<p>I posted a longwinded further response on my blog <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv"> Silk&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://silkwow.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/whats-a-hybrid-good-for/" rel="nofollow">Whatâ€™s a hybrid good for?</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Windsoar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windsoar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like many of the posters above I believe there&#039;s a fine line between successfully utilizing your class to its fullest, and playing subpar in attempting to help.

In a really bad, everything hit the fan moment, I&#039;d much rather have the folks with me who know it&#039;s ok to splash a heal on themselves, drop a &quot;non-ideal&quot; totem (roots anyone?) or lash out with a knockback to save a healer.  I know I did my share of cleansing when playing a tank -- its one of the advantages of playing a hybrid.

For a dps class that has to change form to toss a heal?  I&#039;d really, really have to see the justification (literally raid saving) for it to make it worth the raid&#039;s while -- I&#039;ve asked people to do it, but its also been a &quot;we can definitely afford the trade off&quot; in terms of dps loss for lesser healing ability.

And I scrolled to fast to catch the name, but to the above comment re: raid frames -- I expect everyone to decurse if they can, but I would never expect a mage to have more than decursive (it&#039;s the most discrete raid frames I&#039;ve ever seen).
.-= Windsoar&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://jadedalt.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/the-impact-of-badges/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Impact of Badges&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many of the posters above I believe there&#8217;s a fine line between successfully utilizing your class to its fullest, and playing subpar in attempting to help.</p>
<p>In a really bad, everything hit the fan moment, I&#8217;d much rather have the folks with me who know it&#8217;s ok to splash a heal on themselves, drop a &#8220;non-ideal&#8221; totem (roots anyone?) or lash out with a knockback to save a healer.  I know I did my share of cleansing when playing a tank &#8212; its one of the advantages of playing a hybrid.</p>
<p>For a dps class that has to change form to toss a heal?  I&#8217;d really, really have to see the justification (literally raid saving) for it to make it worth the raid&#8217;s while &#8212; I&#8217;ve asked people to do it, but its also been a &#8220;we can definitely afford the trade off&#8221; in terms of dps loss for lesser healing ability.</p>
<p>And I scrolled to fast to catch the name, but to the above comment re: raid frames &#8212; I expect everyone to decurse if they can, but I would never expect a mage to have more than decursive (it&#8217;s the most discrete raid frames I&#8217;ve ever seen).<br />
<span class="cluv"> Windsoar&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://jadedalt.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/the-impact-of-badges/" rel="nofollow">The Impact of Badges</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Professor Beej</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Beej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am drawn the hybrid style not for the versatility, but the limits the talent trees places on the classes.  A Priest has two trees which are equally viable for healing, depending on what role one wishes to play.  A Druid, however, only has a single tree in which to invest points (admittedly, though, it is a bloated tree).  

Back in the day, I longed for the variety having to choose between Disc and Holy gave me, but these days, I consider Resto to be superior because it is in every way equal to a &quot;pure&quot; class&#039; talents, but more consolidated and easier to grab all the tasty talents one could want.

But I still play my Priest because I love the fat, ugly little guy.  Whacha gonna do?
.-= Professor Beej&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ProfessorBeej/~3/FTpp1tgmbZs/dollhouse-evolution-of-tried-and-true.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dollhouse - Evolution of Joss Whedon&#039;s Tried and True?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am drawn the hybrid style not for the versatility, but the limits the talent trees places on the classes.  A Priest has two trees which are equally viable for healing, depending on what role one wishes to play.  A Druid, however, only has a single tree in which to invest points (admittedly, though, it is a bloated tree).  </p>
<p>Back in the day, I longed for the variety having to choose between Disc and Holy gave me, but these days, I consider Resto to be superior because it is in every way equal to a &#8220;pure&#8221; class&#8217; talents, but more consolidated and easier to grab all the tasty talents one could want.</p>
<p>But I still play my Priest because I love the fat, ugly little guy.  Whacha gonna do?<br />
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		<title>By: Kivuli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kivuli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a feral druid. Not a cat druid, not a bear druid, a feral druid. I&#039;ve designed my spec to be a tank or a DPS with just a single press of the shapeshift button. I don&#039;t even change gear. I main tank Ulduar and I can top DPS charts. The two don&#039;t have to be as separate as people seem to think nowadays and it&#039;s a shame that they do.

It is immense fun being able to, if the MT dies, go bear, growl, and immediately be a perfectly viable replacement tank. I&#039;ve saved raids from wipes doing that. During Gluth I usually offtank for my guild by DPSing in cat next to the MT, going bear and tanking while the MT&#039;s stacks fall off, then going right back to cat when the MT takes him off me. My favorite discipline priest and I have a great trick we use when I&#039;m the tank and a mission-critical raider dies. We synchronize power word shield and barkskin, pop them at the same time, I shift to caster to quickly battlerez the dead raider, then immediately pop back into bear form and continue about my merry way. It&#039;s a rush for both of us.

My secondary spec is resto, though I waffled with going restokin as a sortof partner to my feral spec. Regardless, hybrids who embrace their duality are perfectly viable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a feral druid. Not a cat druid, not a bear druid, a feral druid. I&#8217;ve designed my spec to be a tank or a DPS with just a single press of the shapeshift button. I don&#8217;t even change gear. I main tank Ulduar and I can top DPS charts. The two don&#8217;t have to be as separate as people seem to think nowadays and it&#8217;s a shame that they do.</p>
<p>It is immense fun being able to, if the MT dies, go bear, growl, and immediately be a perfectly viable replacement tank. I&#8217;ve saved raids from wipes doing that. During Gluth I usually offtank for my guild by DPSing in cat next to the MT, going bear and tanking while the MT&#8217;s stacks fall off, then going right back to cat when the MT takes him off me. My favorite discipline priest and I have a great trick we use when I&#8217;m the tank and a mission-critical raider dies. We synchronize power word shield and barkskin, pop them at the same time, I shift to caster to quickly battlerez the dead raider, then immediately pop back into bear form and continue about my merry way. It&#8217;s a rush for both of us.</p>
<p>My secondary spec is resto, though I waffled with going restokin as a sortof partner to my feral spec. Regardless, hybrids who embrace their duality are perfectly viable.</p>
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