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	<title>Comments on: Archetypes of the Female Gamer, revisited</title>
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		<title>By: the pilatesbiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>the pilatesbiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article and right to the point. I dont know if this is in fact the best place to ask but do you guys have any thoughts on where to hire some professional writers? Thanks in advance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and right to the point. I dont know if this is in fact the best place to ask but do you guys have any thoughts on where to hire some professional writers? Thanks in advance</p>
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		<title>By: Tree Bark Jacket &#8211; restoration druid blog &#187; Enormous post of yellow, part deux (without the yellow)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tree Bark Jacket &#8211; restoration druid blog &#187; Enormous post of yellow, part deux (without the yellow)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sydera: The deep assumption is, of course, that women’s sexuality is by nature deviant or wrong, that all women should be good little prudes. As animal types, these women go about their destructive behaviors without thinking–they are primal forces, out to disturb the happy homosocial world of male gamers.(from Archetypes Revisited) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sydera: The deep assumption is, of course, that women’s sexuality is by nature deviant or wrong, that all women should be good little prudes. As animal types, these women go about their destructive behaviors without thinking–they are primal forces, out to disturb the happy homosocial world of male gamers.(from Archetypes Revisited) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SHE plays WoW?! &#171; Healing through stupid, one raid at a time</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/08/05/archetypes-of-the-female-gamer-revisited/comment-page-5/#comment-27852</link>
		<dc:creator>SHE plays WoW?! &#171; Healing through stupid, one raid at a time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So what exactly can make a female gamer your worst nightmare? When she meets the stereotype put onto us females, and female gamers. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Female gamers archetypes &#8211; the silent threat &#171; PixelVulture</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/08/05/archetypes-of-the-female-gamer-revisited/comment-page-5/#comment-25782</link>
		<dc:creator>Female gamers archetypes &#8211; the silent threat &#171; PixelVulture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are fast and heavy in the gaming world. Women will often be treated less worthy and will need to earn their respect from fellow gamers much more than a male gamers. I repeat: D.O.U.B.L.E. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are fast and heavy in the gaming world. Women will often be treated less worthy and will need to earn their respect from fellow gamers much more than a male gamers. I repeat: D.O.U.B.L.E. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TheAlbatross</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheAlbatross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really excited that I stumbled upon this article, partly because I relate to the topic, but more importantly, I am currently working on a paper on Female Gamers for my Linguistics, Language and Gender class.  This topic is very relevant to the class simply by the use of the gendered terms. For those of you who seem to have a concept of feminism that reflects male-bashing, I hope that you look more into the intent of the movement. 

A great deal of research has been done on the topic of language and gender and how certain terms can signal inclusion of a group or can define the power relationships among genders. True, stereotypes can reflect reality, but according to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, it is more common that our perception of reality, i.e. the stereotypes we associate with our lives, is constructed via the language we use. Therefore, there is a strong relationship between the language we use and how we see the world because our language reflects the way we see the world and reinforces it constantly. 

It follows that, if we use gendered terms, i.e. ones that have some connotation of belonging to one sex over the other, we actually reinforce the actual inequality of the genders if the terms are used as derogatory terms for other people.  Those who might dispute this, should really look into the literature. 

So, unfortunately this means that even when the terms Vixen, Diva and Princess are said to be used as gender-neutral, they still carry an underlying connotation of femininity which, though not explicit, express the assumption that these are females causing problems. Sorry if you disagree, but there is a huge body of research supporting this issue. 

Feminism in this respect, is about finding these sort of terms and showing people that they indeed carry some gender bias REGARDLESS of the intention of the speaker. The idea is to expose the underlying assumptions that shape our perceptions of reality, and in this case, of the female gaming experience. 

This is what I&#039;m attempting to accomplish in my paper, and what many other researchers have tried to accomplish since the advent of the video game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really excited that I stumbled upon this article, partly because I relate to the topic, but more importantly, I am currently working on a paper on Female Gamers for my Linguistics, Language and Gender class.  This topic is very relevant to the class simply by the use of the gendered terms. For those of you who seem to have a concept of feminism that reflects male-bashing, I hope that you look more into the intent of the movement. </p>
<p>A great deal of research has been done on the topic of language and gender and how certain terms can signal inclusion of a group or can define the power relationships among genders. True, stereotypes can reflect reality, but according to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, it is more common that our perception of reality, i.e. the stereotypes we associate with our lives, is constructed via the language we use. Therefore, there is a strong relationship between the language we use and how we see the world because our language reflects the way we see the world and reinforces it constantly. </p>
<p>It follows that, if we use gendered terms, i.e. ones that have some connotation of belonging to one sex over the other, we actually reinforce the actual inequality of the genders if the terms are used as derogatory terms for other people.  Those who might dispute this, should really look into the literature. </p>
<p>So, unfortunately this means that even when the terms Vixen, Diva and Princess are said to be used as gender-neutral, they still carry an underlying connotation of femininity which, though not explicit, express the assumption that these are females causing problems. Sorry if you disagree, but there is a huge body of research supporting this issue. </p>
<p>Feminism in this respect, is about finding these sort of terms and showing people that they indeed carry some gender bias REGARDLESS of the intention of the speaker. The idea is to expose the underlying assumptions that shape our perceptions of reality, and in this case, of the female gaming experience. </p>
<p>This is what I&#8217;m attempting to accomplish in my paper, and what many other researchers have tried to accomplish since the advent of the video game.</p>
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		<title>By: Lulu&#8217;s Late Night Antics &#8482; &#171; Bubbles Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lulu&#8217;s Late Night Antics &#8482; &#171; Bubbles Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] innuendo (coming from me at least) in WoW, but I feel rather safe with my guild. I&#8217;m not a guild diva, a guild princess, or a guild femme fatale. In fact, I typically distance myself from conversations and jokes related to sex to skirt around [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] innuendo (coming from me at least) in WoW, but I feel rather safe with my guild. I&#8217;m not a guild diva, a guild princess, or a guild femme fatale. In fact, I typically distance myself from conversations and jokes related to sex to skirt around [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Sydera. And all of the comments saying... &quot;it just makes me so tired&quot;. 

Now that I&#039;m a granny gamer AND back at university studying gaming/digital culture I am shocked at the unchallenged stereotypes, misinformation and lazy prejudices abounding even at university and the number of supposedly intelligent informed culturally aware post grad students completely missing it.

I mentioned the need for a bit of feminist analysis in my 2nd class and was &#039;gagged&#039; for causing an ruckus. Everyone went off! Feminism is apparently SOO unneccesary! I was censured for sidelining a discussion about &#039;the digital divide&quot;. WTF?

I&#039;d prefer to game in my free time (LOL) not fight and fight against stereotyping. But I forget that it&#039;s a load I&#039;m always carrying on my own, regardless, until I read a post like yours and walk away with a lighter heart and my head held higher.
.-= Andra&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://andragy.blogspot.com/2009/09/socialaction.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SocialAction&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Sydera. And all of the comments saying&#8230; &#8220;it just makes me so tired&#8221;. </p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;m a granny gamer AND back at university studying gaming/digital culture I am shocked at the unchallenged stereotypes, misinformation and lazy prejudices abounding even at university and the number of supposedly intelligent informed culturally aware post grad students completely missing it.</p>
<p>I mentioned the need for a bit of feminist analysis in my 2nd class and was &#8216;gagged&#8217; for causing an ruckus. Everyone went off! Feminism is apparently SOO unneccesary! I was censured for sidelining a discussion about &#8216;the digital divide&#8221;. WTF?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d prefer to game in my free time (LOL) not fight and fight against stereotyping. But I forget that it&#8217;s a load I&#8217;m always carrying on my own, regardless, until I read a post like yours and walk away with a lighter heart and my head held higher.<br />
.-= Andra&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://andragy.blogspot.com/2009/09/socialaction.html" rel="nofollow">SocialAction</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: 2ndNin</title>
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		<dc:creator>2ndNin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In what way is it an insult? Most of the references I find to mention it as too firm an affirmation of the overacting, thus indicating guilt (since there . Nothing I have found would imply that it is an insult  (to offend or demean) but rather to indicate a falsehood or cover up which is more in fitting with how I and others seem to read the line.

(First two cites I found referencing it, there are way more but pasting from google seems pointless)

http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/lady-doth-protest-too-much-methinks
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Shakespeare-3004/2008/12/Shakespear-quote.htm?rd=1

The context of the line would also suggest that it is the vehement affirmation to which there is objection (since the player queen does not protest her treatment in the other uses of that word). Thus it is the defence without question that is questionable making the quote relevant since you are defending the principle that stereotypes are bad without question especially in relation to their derogatory usage against female gamers.

Taking the connotative rather than the denotative meaning is an interesting trick given that the denotative meaning of the statement is applicable here, as well as the conotative meaning others seem to read into it. I suppose this is personal since you are reading into what you believe was implied and not what was directly stated. I believe was the point of your post several above this that speech has to be used carefully lest we corrupt the meaning or utilise the connotative to hide reprehensible behaviour inside seemingly unbiased wordings.

Jez never states that the critique is reprehensible in fact he gives you credit for it, then notes that the approach and vehemence with which you use may be inappropriate for the post which Lodur initially wrote making the defence seem inappropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what way is it an insult? Most of the references I find to mention it as too firm an affirmation of the overacting, thus indicating guilt (since there . Nothing I have found would imply that it is an insult  (to offend or demean) but rather to indicate a falsehood or cover up which is more in fitting with how I and others seem to read the line.</p>
<p>(First two cites I found referencing it, there are way more but pasting from google seems pointless)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/lady-doth-protest-too-much-methinks" rel="nofollow">http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/lady-doth-protest-too-much-methinks</a><br />
<a href="http://en.allexperts.com/q/Shakespeare-3004/2008/12/Shakespear-quote.htm?rd=1" rel="nofollow">http://en.allexperts.com/q/Shakespeare-3004/2008/12/Shakespear-quote.htm?rd=1</a></p>
<p>The context of the line would also suggest that it is the vehement affirmation to which there is objection (since the player queen does not protest her treatment in the other uses of that word). Thus it is the defence without question that is questionable making the quote relevant since you are defending the principle that stereotypes are bad without question especially in relation to their derogatory usage against female gamers.</p>
<p>Taking the connotative rather than the denotative meaning is an interesting trick given that the denotative meaning of the statement is applicable here, as well as the conotative meaning others seem to read into it. I suppose this is personal since you are reading into what you believe was implied and not what was directly stated. I believe was the point of your post several above this that speech has to be used carefully lest we corrupt the meaning or utilise the connotative to hide reprehensible behaviour inside seemingly unbiased wordings.</p>
<p>Jez never states that the critique is reprehensible in fact he gives you credit for it, then notes that the approach and vehemence with which you use may be inappropriate for the post which Lodur initially wrote making the defence seem inappropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Spennix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spennix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see Sydera claiming to be authoritative due to any kind of academic status or intellectual capital or anything; where did she do that?

(Also I note that this discussion has wandered a bit off of the actual topic into the &quot;who really said what about whom and who&#039;s at fault&quot; thing, which is generally not all that interesting.)
.-= Spennix&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://daleinnis.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/quick-evony-update/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Quick Evony Update&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Sydera claiming to be authoritative due to any kind of academic status or intellectual capital or anything; where did she do that?</p>
<p>(Also I note that this discussion has wandered a bit off of the actual topic into the &#8220;who really said what about whom and who&#8217;s at fault&#8221; thing, which is generally not all that interesting.)<br />
.-= Spennix&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://daleinnis.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/quick-evony-update/" rel="nofollow">Quick Evony Update</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jezrael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jezrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As other people have already pointed out in their comments, your argument (whilst I will again state, having valid points) is detracted from, in my opinion, by your use of stereotypes which are the very thing you are actually railing against. I&#039;m not saying that you the person are indeed any of the stereotypes you castigate, I&#039;m postulating that your argument is bound and framed by what you are arguing against. I don&#039;t see you as your argument. I don&#039;t know you at all so I&#039;m not judging you the person. But you put your argument out here in the public domain and by that act you should understand that you then allow that argument to be called into question. 

I could use another Hamlet quote here: &quot;Words, words, words&quot;. By which I mean to say that words are just objects of communication from which meaning is extrapolated by the reader through their own distinctive and subjective lens. Before we read and interpret they are just marks, empty and devoid of meaning. No reiterating of your subjective point of view using whatever discourse of power you feel gives you authority to speak necessarily makes you right. And that goes for everyone, including me. So feel free to disagree with my argument, just as I disagree with yours. The thing I most take to task, as I will once again reiterate, is your use of intellectual capital to insist on your voice as speaking authoritatively. Which is, I again argue, highly ironic.
.-= Jezrael&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DpsWeDeliver/~3/vDO_3DpEHNc/character.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Character&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As other people have already pointed out in their comments, your argument (whilst I will again state, having valid points) is detracted from, in my opinion, by your use of stereotypes which are the very thing you are actually railing against. I&#8217;m not saying that you the person are indeed any of the stereotypes you castigate, I&#8217;m postulating that your argument is bound and framed by what you are arguing against. I don&#8217;t see you as your argument. I don&#8217;t know you at all so I&#8217;m not judging you the person. But you put your argument out here in the public domain and by that act you should understand that you then allow that argument to be called into question. </p>
<p>I could use another Hamlet quote here: &#8220;Words, words, words&#8221;. By which I mean to say that words are just objects of communication from which meaning is extrapolated by the reader through their own distinctive and subjective lens. Before we read and interpret they are just marks, empty and devoid of meaning. No reiterating of your subjective point of view using whatever discourse of power you feel gives you authority to speak necessarily makes you right. And that goes for everyone, including me. So feel free to disagree with my argument, just as I disagree with yours. The thing I most take to task, as I will once again reiterate, is your use of intellectual capital to insist on your voice as speaking authoritatively. Which is, I again argue, highly ironic.<br />
.-= Jezrael&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DpsWeDeliver/~3/vDO_3DpEHNc/character.html" rel="nofollow">Character</a> =-.</p>
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