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		<title>By: Prexie</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/06/11/so-you-think-you-can-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-22190</link>
		<dc:creator>Prexie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely dependent on guild culture and standards. My 5/5 9/9 guild set performance standards and kicked recruits who couldn&#039;t grasp BB&#039;s focus or Teron&#039;s constructs. However those are fights where it is perfectly clear who is at fault without even WWS or WoL analyzing.

In early BC I was a class lead in a friends-family turned raiders (cause of a core of us who knew end-game) guild. Priority was given to the higher ups and their friends, even if they died to Lurker spout every time. With the culture and guild mentality I couldn&#039;t act in my class lead role as playstyle criticism (resto shaman without earth shield, BM hunter without FI) of any of the old farts was suggesting I wanted to pay their 15 a month for them.

So set the culture as one that sees the raid as a whole and not as individual interests. Our criticism doesn&#039;t mean we want to play the game FOR you as the uber-casuals seemed to believe. Rather, we want them to stop wasting the other 360 a month the raid invests in the experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely dependent on guild culture and standards. My 5/5 9/9 guild set performance standards and kicked recruits who couldn&#8217;t grasp BB&#8217;s focus or Teron&#8217;s constructs. However those are fights where it is perfectly clear who is at fault without even WWS or WoL analyzing.</p>
<p>In early BC I was a class lead in a friends-family turned raiders (cause of a core of us who knew end-game) guild. Priority was given to the higher ups and their friends, even if they died to Lurker spout every time. With the culture and guild mentality I couldn&#8217;t act in my class lead role as playstyle criticism (resto shaman without earth shield, BM hunter without FI) of any of the old farts was suggesting I wanted to pay their 15 a month for them.</p>
<p>So set the culture as one that sees the raid as a whole and not as individual interests. Our criticism doesn&#8217;t mean we want to play the game FOR you as the uber-casuals seemed to believe. Rather, we want them to stop wasting the other 360 a month the raid invests in the experience.</p>
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		<title>By: TehScat</title>
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		<dc:creator>TehScat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raiding in a casual/friendly guild, which has evolved into a raiding guild, I have many of these issues when differing between new recruits who are standard, and friends who have been here from the start. Cutting a sub-par friend to bring in a 2-week raider can hurt the guild as much as a bad player can hurt the raid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raiding in a casual/friendly guild, which has evolved into a raiding guild, I have many of these issues when differing between new recruits who are standard, and friends who have been here from the start. Cutting a sub-par friend to bring in a 2-week raider can hurt the guild as much as a bad player can hurt the raid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Annael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I have seen to many times (and yes I have led raids and been a class leader) it&#039;s often forgotten but behind every raider there is a real live human being.

To many times I have seen the issue of informing someone they are being dropped done without registering that simple fact. Yes people need to be told (and sometimes no matter how you tell them they react badly). But often this task can lead to a guild or community implosion. 

So yes tell them, but please please do it with care and respect, as I hope you would like to be treated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I have seen to many times (and yes I have led raids and been a class leader) it&#8217;s often forgotten but behind every raider there is a real live human being.</p>
<p>To many times I have seen the issue of informing someone they are being dropped done without registering that simple fact. Yes people need to be told (and sometimes no matter how you tell them they react badly). But often this task can lead to a guild or community implosion. </p>
<p>So yes tell them, but please please do it with care and respect, as I hope you would like to be treated.</p>
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		<title>By: Gravity</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/06/11/so-you-think-you-can-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-21047</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a really cultural aspect, isn&#039;t it. Back in 40-man raids, I was a hardass GM and would tell people bluntly to lift their game. I didn&#039;t really mind about their feelings so much, because their poor performance was effecting 39 people who had brought their best efforts to the raid. I just gave the negative feedback, boom.

I think most serious progression guilds tend to be militaristic / harsh /blunt (based on my experience but moreso from reading about them, including interviews at project daedalus).

I then expect a casual guild will be on a continuum between totally laisez faire and harsh, depending on the GM/guild culture.

The guild I&#039;m in now as a tank (I&#039;m not GM nor officer now) is really much more relaxed, and tends to be much softer, albeit occasionally it comes comes out as covert anger (indirectly) which isn&#039;t very honest either. That&#039;s cultural too, but it&#039;s also a very long-lasting guild (5+ years old).

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Gravitys last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://pwnwear.com/2009/06/16/phd-in-wow/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PhD in WoW&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a really cultural aspect, isn&#8217;t it. Back in 40-man raids, I was a hardass GM and would tell people bluntly to lift their game. I didn&#8217;t really mind about their feelings so much, because their poor performance was effecting 39 people who had brought their best efforts to the raid. I just gave the negative feedback, boom.</p>
<p>I think most serious progression guilds tend to be militaristic / harsh /blunt (based on my experience but moreso from reading about them, including interviews at project daedalus).</p>
<p>I then expect a casual guild will be on a continuum between totally laisez faire and harsh, depending on the GM/guild culture.</p>
<p>The guild I&#8217;m in now as a tank (I&#8217;m not GM nor officer now) is really much more relaxed, and tends to be much softer, albeit occasionally it comes comes out as covert anger (indirectly) which isn&#8217;t very honest either. That&#8217;s cultural too, but it&#8217;s also a very long-lasting guild (5+ years old).</p>
<p><abbr><em>Gravitys last blog post..<a href="http://pwnwear.com/2009/06/16/phd-in-wow/" rel="nofollow">PhD in WoW</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see what this&#039; looks &quot;like:&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see what this&#8217; looks &#8220;like:&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. Something happened in the server transition. Have to redo the apostrophes. Thanks for the headsup</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. Something happened in the server transition. Have to redo the apostrophes. Thanks for the headsup</p>
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		<title>By: jessca</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s just my browser of if there&#039;s something wrong with this article, but all your apostrophes are &quot;Ã¢â‚¬â„¢&quot; symbols instead and it&#039;s really distracting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s just my browser of if there&#8217;s something wrong with this article, but all your apostrophes are &#8220;Ã¢â‚¬â„¢&#8221; symbols instead and it&#8217;s really distracting.</p>
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		<title>By: Nettles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nettles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve taken to not even bringing the player into the guild to try them out. We got to like the trial raiders who were gosh darn nice people, but had inconsistant performance and didn&#039;t seem to want to work through why. It was hard on the whole guild to remove the player from the guild. 

Ulduar is a whole new level of playing, but it wastes 24 other peoples&#039; times if one person isn&#039;t up to that level of performance and focus. 

Handling comments is part of the deal. But the trail raider should be doing a lot of the analysis themselves and asking for advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve taken to not even bringing the player into the guild to try them out. We got to like the trial raiders who were gosh darn nice people, but had inconsistant performance and didn&#8217;t seem to want to work through why. It was hard on the whole guild to remove the player from the guild. </p>
<p>Ulduar is a whole new level of playing, but it wastes 24 other peoples&#8217; times if one person isn&#8217;t up to that level of performance and focus. </p>
<p>Handling comments is part of the deal. But the trail raider should be doing a lot of the analysis themselves and asking for advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyben: Yes, I do expect there to be some feedback being provided at some level. It doesn&#039;t matter what their status is. Veteran or trial, there should be some lines of communication going especially if there are problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyben: Yes, I do expect there to be some feedback being provided at some level. It doesn&#8217;t matter what their status is. Veteran or trial, there should be some lines of communication going especially if there are problems.</p>
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		<title>By: whatisboom?</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatisboom?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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