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	<title>Comments on: Shaman Q &amp; A With Ghost Crawler, Resto Recap</title>
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		<title>By: New Shaman Changes Announced!(updated) &#124; MMOFire</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Shaman Changes Announced!(updated) &#124; MMOFire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we talked about it durring the Shaman Q&amp;A recap here. At the time they were talking about revamping the way totems are handled, and well some news [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we talked about it durring the Shaman Q&amp;A recap here. At the time they were talking about revamping the way totems are handled, and well some news [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zorash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zorash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vvodka  Yes and yes. 

-Z</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vvodka  Yes and yes. </p>
<p>-Z</p>
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		<title>By: drug</title>
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		<dc:creator>drug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little bit disappointed by the Q&amp;A. But then again, it&#039;s just a Q&amp;A and no patch notes and it&#039;s very interesting to hear how blizzard sees a class and what direction they plan to take. 

But we have to be realistic, in the end it&#039;s the patch notes that count. And something like squeezing all totems into one GCD and more totem homogenization sounds lovely, but is very likely to take longer than we or blizzard expect. And I really hope that blizzard helps us with the range issue as well.

I really hope though they go the way of adding more synergy in our top tier talents, adding more synergy between chain heal and RT/LHW, maybe even give us 1-2 new abilities in the long run. And plase blizzard, don&#039;t rework CH too much. We can spam chain heal, so chainheal will often be either too good or just a tiny bit too weak, and I&#039;m much more comfortable with a slightly too weak CH than an overpowered one. The only thing I&#039;d like to see is maybe a little bit more healing on jump 3. and 4. and more range, but even little changes like that could have a huge impact on CH HPS/usefulness.

My ideas that would help resto shamans:
1. Adding a talent with a low chance to refresh one WS orb
2. Adding a tidal wave like synergy to CH (Casting two LHWs will add XX% haste to your next CH or something like that)
3. Adding a talent/ability to help us with some burst healing (30 sec cooldown, your next CH is instant but only heals for 50%)
4. A PVE relic for LHW and a ES independent LHW glyph (blizzard seems to accept LHW as a strong PVE spell, I&#039;d love to see it unliked a bit more from its PVP direction)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;drugs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shieldsup.ch/2009/06/05/state-of-the-resto-shaman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;State of the Resto Shaman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little bit disappointed by the Q&amp;A. But then again, it&#8217;s just a Q&amp;A and no patch notes and it&#8217;s very interesting to hear how blizzard sees a class and what direction they plan to take. </p>
<p>But we have to be realistic, in the end it&#8217;s the patch notes that count. And something like squeezing all totems into one GCD and more totem homogenization sounds lovely, but is very likely to take longer than we or blizzard expect. And I really hope that blizzard helps us with the range issue as well.</p>
<p>I really hope though they go the way of adding more synergy in our top tier talents, adding more synergy between chain heal and RT/LHW, maybe even give us 1-2 new abilities in the long run. And plase blizzard, don&#8217;t rework CH too much. We can spam chain heal, so chainheal will often be either too good or just a tiny bit too weak, and I&#8217;m much more comfortable with a slightly too weak CH than an overpowered one. The only thing I&#8217;d like to see is maybe a little bit more healing on jump 3. and 4. and more range, but even little changes like that could have a huge impact on CH HPS/usefulness.</p>
<p>My ideas that would help resto shamans:<br />
1. Adding a talent with a low chance to refresh one WS orb<br />
2. Adding a tidal wave like synergy to CH (Casting two LHWs will add XX% haste to your next CH or something like that)<br />
3. Adding a talent/ability to help us with some burst healing (30 sec cooldown, your next CH is instant but only heals for 50%)<br />
4. A PVE relic for LHW and a ES independent LHW glyph (blizzard seems to accept LHW as a strong PVE spell, I&#8217;d love to see it unliked a bit more from its PVP direction)</p>
<p><abbr><em>drugs last blog post..<a href="http://www.shieldsup.ch/2009/06/05/state-of-the-resto-shaman/" rel="nofollow">State of the Resto Shaman</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Cooud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cooud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you read the last post in http://blue.mmo-champion.com/27/17619782879-shamanpve-is-blizzard-still-not-convinced.html

&quot;The second is that when you are in a perfect situation to use Chain Heal, it&#039;s not be cutting it as an AE heal. This is a more legit concern in our opinion and something we are likely to address&quot;

It sounds like some number tweaking for CH is in the works, whether this is increase bounce range, more healing, lower mana cost or whatever.

so it doesn&#039;t seem like getting CH back into rotation via gear is the only method they are looking at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you read the last post in <a href="http://blue.mmo-champion.com/27/17619782879-shamanpve-is-blizzard-still-not-convinced.html" rel="nofollow">http://blue.mmo-champion.com/27/17619782879-shamanpve-is-blizzard-still-not-convinced.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The second is that when you are in a perfect situation to use Chain Heal, it&#8217;s not be cutting it as an AE heal. This is a more legit concern in our opinion and something we are likely to address&#8221;</p>
<p>It sounds like some number tweaking for CH is in the works, whether this is increase bounce range, more healing, lower mana cost or whatever.</p>
<p>so it doesn&#8217;t seem like getting CH back into rotation via gear is the only method they are looking at.</p>
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		<title>By: Shyraia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shyraia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if a thing like sniper training would work for healing. Get a bonus if you stand still, but you can still heal on the fly. Would be an interesting mechanic to work with. 

And all totems in one cooldown, pretty awsome indeed ^_^

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Shyraias last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://shyatwow.blogspot.com/2009/06/to-experienced.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;To the experienced&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if a thing like sniper training would work for healing. Get a bonus if you stand still, but you can still heal on the fly. Would be an interesting mechanic to work with. </p>
<p>And all totems in one cooldown, pretty awsome indeed ^_^</p>
<p><abbr><em>Shyraias last blog post..<a href="http://shyatwow.blogspot.com/2009/06/to-experienced.html" rel="nofollow">To the experienced</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Vvodka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vvodka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zorash - 9k?  -  You from Crushridge?  Are these your logs?  http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/2333/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zorash &#8211; 9k?  &#8211;  You from Crushridge?  Are these your logs?  <a href="http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/2333/" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/2333/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zorash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zorash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vvodka &quot;CH: 793 mana / 12,000 heal 15.1 HPM&quot;

How do you figure it&#039;s only a 12k heal?  My first hit is 9k+ in a raid, before crit. I crit for 13k+ on the first hit.  If it hops to all four targets, my average non-crit chain heal easily does in the 16-18k range, not 12k.  With a 35%+ raiding crit chance, the numbers are consistently much higher. 

At 17k per CH (a very conservative number) you&#039;re talking about a 21.4 HPM ratio, not 15.1. 

I completely agree that CH is too slow, and that the bounce distance is too short, but the potential HPM numbers aren&#039;t too shabby, if it gets to bounce.

-Z</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vvodka &#8220;CH: 793 mana / 12,000 heal 15.1 HPM&#8221;</p>
<p>How do you figure it&#8217;s only a 12k heal?  My first hit is 9k+ in a raid, before crit. I crit for 13k+ on the first hit.  If it hops to all four targets, my average non-crit chain heal easily does in the 16-18k range, not 12k.  With a 35%+ raiding crit chance, the numbers are consistently much higher. </p>
<p>At 17k per CH (a very conservative number) you&#8217;re talking about a 21.4 HPM ratio, not 15.1. </p>
<p>I completely agree that CH is too slow, and that the bounce distance is too short, but the potential HPM numbers aren&#8217;t too shabby, if it gets to bounce.</p>
<p>-Z</p>
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		<title>By: Lodur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lodur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vvodka Fair enough. I would love more tools but I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll get them unfortunately. I guess we&#039;ll see what happens when 3.2 drops. Hopefully it will be something good. You are right, and waiting for tier loot to fix it would suck, but the question is how does one fix it now? I guess we&#039;ll see what their plan is come 3.2 (hoepfully) soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vvodka Fair enough. I would love more tools but I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll get them unfortunately. I guess we&#8217;ll see what happens when 3.2 drops. Hopefully it will be something good. You are right, and waiting for tier loot to fix it would suck, but the question is how does one fix it now? I guess we&#8217;ll see what their plan is come 3.2 (hoepfully) soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Vvodka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vvodka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@address our issues though the relic / tier loot

I don&#039;t want to see us fixed by a T9 4set bonus.  That would leave us in our current state for all of Ulduar, plus the 8-10 weeks on the new 3.2 raid content while we gathered our tier set.  And we&#039;d be in the same boat we are in now for T10.

The shaman problem is not enough tools.  HW is a once every 3 minute NS spell.  Riptide is on a CD.  That leaves us LHW and Chain Heal.  When CH can bounce effectively, we us it.  When CH cannot bounce effectively, we use LHW.  
Maybe CH and LHW are just too similar.  Both heal the target for roughly the same amount.  CH is just slower to cast countered by the ability to chain to other targets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@address our issues though the relic / tier loot</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to see us fixed by a T9 4set bonus.  That would leave us in our current state for all of Ulduar, plus the 8-10 weeks on the new 3.2 raid content while we gathered our tier set.  And we&#8217;d be in the same boat we are in now for T10.</p>
<p>The shaman problem is not enough tools.  HW is a once every 3 minute NS spell.  Riptide is on a CD.  That leaves us LHW and Chain Heal.  When CH can bounce effectively, we us it.  When CH cannot bounce effectively, we use LHW.<br />
Maybe CH and LHW are just too similar.  Both heal the target for roughly the same amount.  CH is just slower to cast countered by the ability to chain to other targets.</p>
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		<title>By: Lodur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lodur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Babb GC has a section about resto survivability in PvP. I didn&#039;t touch on it much here because we haven&#039;t really moved into pvp resto shaman discussions quite yet. Check it out though I think you&#039;ll be happy with what he says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Babb GC has a section about resto survivability in PvP. I didn&#8217;t touch on it much here because we haven&#8217;t really moved into pvp resto shaman discussions quite yet. Check it out though I think you&#8217;ll be happy with what he says.</p>
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