Comments on: Friends and Raiders: Becoming a Leader http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/ Where healers come first Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:06:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lyco http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20219 Lyco Wed, 06 May 2009 06:54:09 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20219 If people are not doing what they are supposed to I agree that you should be strict. "Skill" in this game is most often determined by the ability to know when to push your pewpew buttons, and when to move. If you can't figure that out you should start wondering what the hell they are doing. About people with a faulty spec: They should accept the fact that it is wrong, if they can't even back it up with good arguments then why keep them? You'll only end up keeping a player with a gimped spec and thus gimped performance. I always try to remain social, but I won't let the entire raidgroup be held back because 3 or so players don't know what they're doing. Edit: By being strict I mean don't tolerate flaming to each other, or shouting. Tell them what has to be done and when they're doing it wrong. Imo flaming and complaining serves no use and will not make them play better. If people are not doing what they are supposed to I agree that you should be strict.
“Skill” in this game is most often determined by the ability to know when to push your pewpew buttons, and when to move. If you can’t figure that out you should start wondering what the hell they are doing.

About people with a faulty spec: They should accept the fact that it is wrong, if they can’t even back it up with good arguments then why keep them? You’ll only end up keeping a player with a gimped spec and thus gimped performance.

I always try to remain social, but I won’t let the entire raidgroup be held back because 3 or so players don’t know what they’re doing.

Edit: By being strict I mean don’t tolerate flaming to each other, or shouting. Tell them what has to be done and when they’re doing it wrong. Imo flaming and complaining serves no use and will not make them play better.

]]> By: Xeonio http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20196 Xeonio Tue, 05 May 2009 17:40:56 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20196 You mentioned Cellular however I've had lots of problems w/it in the past (last time I used it was in December I think). The problem with it (which may have been fixed) is that if you get two tells at roughly the same time you will get one window for one person and the other tell is lost to the abyss. Which is really bad if you are recieving tells for loot. <abbr><em>Xeonios last blog post..<a href="http://reztheweak.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/312-penance-glyph/" rel="nofollow">3.1.2 - Penance Glyph</a></abbr></em> You mentioned Cellular however I’ve had lots of problems w/it in the past (last time I used it was in December I think). The problem with it (which may have been fixed) is that if you get two tells at roughly the same time you will get one window for one person and the other tell is lost to the abyss. Which is really bad if you are recieving tells for loot.

Xeonios last blog post..3.1.2 – Penance Glyph

]]> By: Phaedra http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20194 Phaedra Tue, 05 May 2009 16:04:54 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20194 I'm an officer and my husband isn't. Most times, to works to my guild's advantage, because my husband serves an "Everyman" purpose for bouncing ideas off of. However, I am also often the ML. And that's when things gets a little tricky. He'll ask me stuff about loot not in vent, which makes me uncomfortable. I don't want our guildies to think he's getting special compensation because he's sleeping with the ML. So far, there have been no issues, but it hangs over my head. We've spoken about it and he's going to work on being more public with our conversations. There are some definate unique issues when you're married, raid together, and only one is an officer. I’m an officer and my husband isn’t. Most times, to works to my guild’s advantage, because my husband serves an “Everyman” purpose for bouncing ideas off of.

However, I am also often the ML. And that’s when things gets a little tricky. He’ll ask me stuff about loot not in vent, which makes me uncomfortable. I don’t want our guildies to think he’s getting special compensation because he’s sleeping with the ML. So far, there have been no issues, but it hangs over my head. We’ve spoken about it and he’s going to work on being more public with our conversations.

There are some definate unique issues when you’re married, raid together, and only one is an officer.

]]> By: Macbook http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20192 Macbook Tue, 05 May 2009 15:38:34 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20192 @ The guy who said you shouldn't call people out -- I would say it depends. I consider myself a pretty calm and collected raid leader, partially because I can't yell since I raid when other people in my house are sleeping. Still, if someone messes up, I say it in Vent. My chat box is spammed 24/7, and in between doing other things and responding psts and officer chat, there simply isn't time for me to type a polite message to whoever is messing up. I call people out all the time, and it hasn't gone too wrong for me. As long as you aren't insulting/degrading with it, you can get away with it and noone is any angrier. Macbook <abbr><em>Macbooks last blog post..<a href="http://moonkin.info/slight-change-to-my-moonkin-talent-build/" rel="nofollow">Slight Change to My Moonkin Talent Build</a></abbr></em> @ The guy who said you shouldn’t call people out –

I would say it depends. I consider myself a pretty calm and collected raid leader, partially because I can’t yell since I raid when other people in my house are sleeping.

Still, if someone messes up, I say it in Vent. My chat box is spammed 24/7, and in between doing other things and responding psts and officer chat, there simply isn’t time for me to type a polite message to whoever is messing up.

I call people out all the time, and it hasn’t gone too wrong for me. As long as you aren’t insulting/degrading with it, you can get away with it and noone is any angrier.

Macbook

Macbooks last blog post..Slight Change to My Moonkin Talent Build

]]> By: rulez http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20191 rulez Tue, 05 May 2009 13:43:10 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20191 My tips, free of charge: :P Always stay humble, calm and friendly but at the same time be precise, decisive and efficient. Always listen to the people you lead and make sure they know when it is the time for suggestions or discussions. Know when and how to push. My tips, free of charge: :P

Always stay humble, calm and friendly but at the same time be precise, decisive and efficient. Always listen to the people you lead and make sure they know when it is the time for suggestions or discussions. Know when and how to push.

]]> By: Nosscire http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20182 Nosscire Tue, 05 May 2009 00:13:32 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20182 The single most important thing that i've noticed during my time as an guild officer and raid leader is to not call people out on their mistakes in public. If half the raid is standing in the fire or whatever you can do some shouting on vent/raid chat, but never call specific people out. Take that in whispers. s If you tell someone off on their mistakes in front of everyone else, you are also humiliating them. That is very rarely a good tactic. You will end up with raiders/guildies with a grudge to you. "Hey man, I noticed that you were standing in the fire again, can you please pay a little more attention so that we can down this boss?" in a whisper is much prefered to: "Nah, it was John that f***ed us up again, no matter how many times I tell him he still stands in the fire" in vent. The single most important thing that i’ve noticed during my time as an guild officer and raid leader is to not call people out on their mistakes in public.

If half the raid is standing in the fire or whatever you can do some shouting on vent/raid chat, but never call specific people out. Take that in whispers. s

If you tell someone off on their mistakes in front of everyone else, you are also humiliating them. That is very rarely a good tactic. You will end up with raiders/guildies with a grudge to you.

“Hey man, I noticed that you were standing in the fire again, can you please pay a little more attention so that we can down this boss?” in a whisper is much prefered to:

“Nah, it was John that f***ed us up again, no matter how many times I tell him he still stands in the fire” in vent.

]]> By: The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers | World Of Warcraft Meet http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20180 The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers | World Of Warcraft Meet Tue, 05 May 2009 00:09:09 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20180 [...] of Matticus's Lodur takes a very close look at the transition into becoming a raid leader. Click here to submit a link to TDQ The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers originally appeared [...] [...] of Matticus’s Lodur takes a very close look at the transition into becoming a raid leader. Click here to submit a link to TDQ The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers originally appeared [...]

]]> By: The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers | World of Warcraft http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20179 The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers | World of Warcraft Mon, 04 May 2009 23:42:26 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20179 [...] of Matticus's Lodur takes a very close look at the transition into becoming a raid leader. Click here to submit a link to TDQ The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers originally appeared [...] [...] of Matticus’s Lodur takes a very close look at the transition into becoming a raid leader. Click here to submit a link to TDQ The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers originally appeared [...]

]]> By: WOW Insider http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20175 WOW Insider Mon, 04 May 2009 23:02:05 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20175 <strong>The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers...</strong> Filed under: The Daily Quest We here at WoW Insider are on a Daily Quest to bring you interesting, informative... The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers…

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]]> By: The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers | The Frozen Gnome http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/05/04/friends-and-raiders-becoming-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-20174 The Daily Quest: Of orphans and officers | The Frozen Gnome Mon, 04 May 2009 22:41:07 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4161#comment-20174 [...] of Matticus’s Lodur takes a very close look at the transition into becoming a raid leader. Click here to submit a link to [...] [...] of Matticus’s Lodur takes a very close look at the transition into becoming a raid leader. Click here to submit a link to [...]

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