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	<title>Comments on: T8 Set Bonuses Revealed</title>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jeez: At the time this post was published, there were no set names and no links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jeez: At the time this post was published, there were no set names and no links.</p>
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		<title>By: jeez</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/18/t8-set-bonuses-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-20310</link>
		<dc:creator>jeez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>be nice if you actually gave the set names so people could look them up directly from here &amp; not have to look around on other sites. directing traffic AWAY from your page isn&#039;t usually the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be nice if you actually gave the set names so people could look them up directly from here &amp; not have to look around on other sites. directing traffic AWAY from your page isn&#8217;t usually the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Silk</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/18/t8-set-bonuses-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-19153</link>
		<dc:creator>Silk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with the lackluster nature of the pally bonuses.  Currently the main use of holy shock is to proc infusion of light for a 0.6 sec Holy Light bomb (which the current 2p T7 bonus - 10% crit - supports).  With the changes to infusion of light I see holy shock being used less and less.  Its hard to see any real benefit in a proc based, weak HoT.

I am also highly unethused by Sacred Shield generally, given that it is a weak single target, proc-based shield.  I just can&#039;t see the mitigation being worth it.  Currently, the 4p T7 bonus is equivalent to (if you assume a very conservative 2 holy light casts per 5 secs) more than 150mp5.  Again, its a massive step back.

I am not too concerned - I honestly can&#039;t see the current pally bonuses going live as they are.  I do think that there may be a lot more competition for shammy mail come 3.1 though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with the lackluster nature of the pally bonuses.  Currently the main use of holy shock is to proc infusion of light for a 0.6 sec Holy Light bomb (which the current 2p T7 bonus &#8211; 10% crit &#8211; supports).  With the changes to infusion of light I see holy shock being used less and less.  Its hard to see any real benefit in a proc based, weak HoT.</p>
<p>I am also highly unethused by Sacred Shield generally, given that it is a weak single target, proc-based shield.  I just can&#8217;t see the mitigation being worth it.  Currently, the 4p T7 bonus is equivalent to (if you assume a very conservative 2 holy light casts per 5 secs) more than 150mp5.  Again, its a massive step back.</p>
<p>I am not too concerned &#8211; I honestly can&#8217;t see the current pally bonuses going live as they are.  I do think that there may be a lot more competition for shammy mail come 3.1 though.</p>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/18/t8-set-bonuses-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-19148</link>
		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually don&#039;t mind the 2P set bonus for Holy Priests...I use PoH a LOT, and will be using a lot more (we rarely have 5 Holy Priests in the raid :p). However...the 4P bonus? /gag and /retch: USELESS for Holy Priests. If you&#039;re casting that many PW:S, then it&#039;s time to respec to Disc. Sorry, but throwing out our wimpy shield is NOT the best use of mana.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kestrels last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/KestrelsAerie/~3/bWY0X_24uug/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hiatus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually don&#8217;t mind the 2P set bonus for Holy Priests&#8230;I use PoH a LOT, and will be using a lot more (we rarely have 5 Holy Priests in the raid :p). However&#8230;the 4P bonus? /gag and /retch: USELESS for Holy Priests. If you&#8217;re casting that many PW:S, then it&#8217;s time to respec to Disc. Sorry, but throwing out our wimpy shield is NOT the best use of mana.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Kestrels last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/KestrelsAerie/~3/bWY0X_24uug/" rel="nofollow">Hiatus</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: apokteino</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/18/t8-set-bonuses-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-19133</link>
		<dc:creator>apokteino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paladin T8 Holy 2P Bonus Ã¢â‚¬â€ Your Holy Shock critical heals now also place a periodic healing effect on the target, healing for 15% of the Holy ShockÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heal amount over 9 sec.
* Paladin T8 Holy 4P Bonus Ã¢â‚¬â€ Increases the damage absorbed by your Sacred Shield by 10%.

my reaction: tons of emo all caps yelling in guild chat for about 15 minutes. these bonuses are not only week, they are worthless. 

2pb: in most raiding situation paladins are called on to MT heal. if we do our job and keep our tank capped there isn&#039;t much need for a shock. we can help with a really low raider but that&#039;s about it. basically this bonus fails for 3 reasons: 1) we don&#039;t use holy shock often enough while raiding (which in and of itself doesn&#039;t mean a bonus  can&#039;t be built around the spell- 10% extra crit on T7 was solid) 2) the bonus requires us to actually crit with our shock (once again, in and of itself not terrible but it does take a spell we rarely use and then cuts the times the bonus will be procced by about 50%) By now you would expect an amazing bonus per proc but it ends up being: 3) a periodic healing effect on the target, healing for 15% of the Holy ShockÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heal amount over 9 sec? really? a HoT that will tick for ~1k hp over 9 seconds? sure it&#039;s &quot;better than nothing&quot; but when main tanks are getting hit for 25k-30k per hit in ulduar this is almost and ends up virtually being nothing for pvp. however, if you are big into pvp this bonus isn&#039;t too bad. if you have enough resil from offset pieces it might not be a bad idea to throw this on for arena b/c you pretty much shock on cd. 

4pb: Increases the damage absorbed by your Sacred Shield by 10%. the amount your shield absorbed is 500 dmg + 75% of current spell power. raid buffed i&#039;m at about 2400. this means my shield will absorb ~2300 dmg. 10% of this is an additional 230 absorbed every 6 seconds. divide 230 by 6 and i&#039;m mitigating a whopping 39 damage per second or 2340 dmg per minute. given the fact that blizz made it so we can only shield 1 target at a time, it makes sense that they would make our shield better, but this is not an improvement. 

long story short: if blizz doesn&#039;t retool the set bonuses there is no reason a pally should bother about getting T8 gear. pick out what the gear that is best in slot and hold on to your 4pb from from T7 as long as possible. also i haven&#039;t looked through all the gear but i did notice a several of the T8 pieces have haste and mp5. this is incredibly fail itemization and i&#039;m sure there is better out there. find the pieces that have highest int/crit/haste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paladin T8 Holy 2P Bonus Ã¢â‚¬â€ Your Holy Shock critical heals now also place a periodic healing effect on the target, healing for 15% of the Holy ShockÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heal amount over 9 sec.<br />
* Paladin T8 Holy 4P Bonus Ã¢â‚¬â€ Increases the damage absorbed by your Sacred Shield by 10%.</p>
<p>my reaction: tons of emo all caps yelling in guild chat for about 15 minutes. these bonuses are not only week, they are worthless. </p>
<p>2pb: in most raiding situation paladins are called on to MT heal. if we do our job and keep our tank capped there isn&#8217;t much need for a shock. we can help with a really low raider but that&#8217;s about it. basically this bonus fails for 3 reasons: 1) we don&#8217;t use holy shock often enough while raiding (which in and of itself doesn&#8217;t mean a bonus  can&#8217;t be built around the spell- 10% extra crit on T7 was solid) 2) the bonus requires us to actually crit with our shock (once again, in and of itself not terrible but it does take a spell we rarely use and then cuts the times the bonus will be procced by about 50%) By now you would expect an amazing bonus per proc but it ends up being: 3) a periodic healing effect on the target, healing for 15% of the Holy ShockÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heal amount over 9 sec? really? a HoT that will tick for ~1k hp over 9 seconds? sure it&#8217;s &#8220;better than nothing&#8221; but when main tanks are getting hit for 25k-30k per hit in ulduar this is almost and ends up virtually being nothing for pvp. however, if you are big into pvp this bonus isn&#8217;t too bad. if you have enough resil from offset pieces it might not be a bad idea to throw this on for arena b/c you pretty much shock on cd. </p>
<p>4pb: Increases the damage absorbed by your Sacred Shield by 10%. the amount your shield absorbed is 500 dmg + 75% of current spell power. raid buffed i&#8217;m at about 2400. this means my shield will absorb ~2300 dmg. 10% of this is an additional 230 absorbed every 6 seconds. divide 230 by 6 and i&#8217;m mitigating a whopping 39 damage per second or 2340 dmg per minute. given the fact that blizz made it so we can only shield 1 target at a time, it makes sense that they would make our shield better, but this is not an improvement. </p>
<p>long story short: if blizz doesn&#8217;t retool the set bonuses there is no reason a pally should bother about getting T8 gear. pick out what the gear that is best in slot and hold on to your 4pb from from T7 as long as possible. also i haven&#8217;t looked through all the gear but i did notice a several of the T8 pieces have haste and mp5. this is incredibly fail itemization and i&#8217;m sure there is better out there. find the pieces that have highest int/crit/haste.</p>
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		<title>By: Cadrack</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/18/t8-set-bonuses-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-19128</link>
		<dc:creator>Cadrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like they REALLY want us to use PoH in 3.1.

1) It can be cast on any target
2) The mana cost is reduced
3) Serendipity decreases the cast time
4) There&#039;s a 2 PC set bonus to increase the crit%

Granted I use PoH somewhat today, when the situation warrants it, but with the increased output of CoH and the new mana regen changes, is it really going to be efficient? I&#039;m not a math major, so I&#039;m not going to spout a bunch of equations to prove a point, but even with the reduced mana cost I don&#039;t know if PoH is going to be something that will be in my top 3 spells cast in a given fight. If it&#039;s not in my top 3, do I really care about having a 10% crit bonus vs. better stats on another piece of non-tier gear. It would appear as though Blizzard thinks it will be something we&#039;ll be casting quite a bit... which is a little cause for concern as I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll last too long in a fight if PoH is a top 3 spell for me.

The four piece bonus is just... meh. The 250sp is nice, but I don&#039;t cast a ton of PW:S right now to be really excited. It honestly sounds like a Disc bonus rather than a holy one.

Ever the optimist...If these are the holy bonuses, I will have a lot more flexibility with my gear, as I won&#039;t worry about keeping 2 pieces of tier gear (except in my Ark Inventory &quot;Collectible&quot; category). 

Ever the skeptic... Maybe Blizz just throws stuff in for Hex miners to post, so people will QQ and they can laugh int heir morning meetings the next day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like they REALLY want us to use PoH in 3.1.</p>
<p>1) It can be cast on any target<br />
2) The mana cost is reduced<br />
3) Serendipity decreases the cast time<br />
4) There&#8217;s a 2 PC set bonus to increase the crit%</p>
<p>Granted I use PoH somewhat today, when the situation warrants it, but with the increased output of CoH and the new mana regen changes, is it really going to be efficient? I&#8217;m not a math major, so I&#8217;m not going to spout a bunch of equations to prove a point, but even with the reduced mana cost I don&#8217;t know if PoH is going to be something that will be in my top 3 spells cast in a given fight. If it&#8217;s not in my top 3, do I really care about having a 10% crit bonus vs. better stats on another piece of non-tier gear. It would appear as though Blizzard thinks it will be something we&#8217;ll be casting quite a bit&#8230; which is a little cause for concern as I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll last too long in a fight if PoH is a top 3 spell for me.</p>
<p>The four piece bonus is just&#8230; meh. The 250sp is nice, but I don&#8217;t cast a ton of PW:S right now to be really excited. It honestly sounds like a Disc bonus rather than a holy one.</p>
<p>Ever the optimist&#8230;If these are the holy bonuses, I will have a lot more flexibility with my gear, as I won&#8217;t worry about keeping 2 pieces of tier gear (except in my Ark Inventory &#8220;Collectible&#8221; category). </p>
<p>Ever the skeptic&#8230; Maybe Blizz just throws stuff in for Hex miners to post, so people will QQ and they can laugh int heir morning meetings the next day.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonus? &#171; Shadow Weaving</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonus? &#171; Shadow Weaving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There was some initial confusion about the wording on the priests&#8217; 4-piece bonuses, and while Matticus has updated information about the healer one, I&#8217;m still not sure of the correct wording for the Shadow Priest [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There was some initial confusion about the wording on the priests&#8217; 4-piece bonuses, and while Matticus has updated information about the healer one, I&#8217;m still not sure of the correct wording for the Shadow Priest [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Valis</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/18/t8-set-bonuses-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-19123</link>
		<dc:creator>Valis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Paladin 2 piece is nice. Added little hot, not much, maybe a little over 1000 extra healing. 

But I think the 4 piece is a slap in the face after the Sacred Shield nerf. It might have been a little something something were shield staying as is -- I currently drop SS on raid members in advance of AOEs and this bonus would be nice for that job. But now this is essentially essentially its an extra, what  250 damage mitigated OVER 30 SECONDS on ONE TARGET? Seriously? Whoopty frigging do. This must have been designed pre-nerf, and tuned when they were worried about how to fix how awesome SS was. Well, they fixed SS for good, now they gotta go 

I think the T8 2 together with the T7 2 piece might be the best combination. 10% more Shock crit, and a 15% hot on crits. Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Paladin 2 piece is nice. Added little hot, not much, maybe a little over 1000 extra healing. </p>
<p>But I think the 4 piece is a slap in the face after the Sacred Shield nerf. It might have been a little something something were shield staying as is &#8212; I currently drop SS on raid members in advance of AOEs and this bonus would be nice for that job. But now this is essentially essentially its an extra, what  250 damage mitigated OVER 30 SECONDS on ONE TARGET? Seriously? Whoopty frigging do. This must have been designed pre-nerf, and tuned when they were worried about how to fix how awesome SS was. Well, they fixed SS for good, now they gotta go </p>
<p>I think the T8 2 together with the T7 2 piece might be the best combination. 10% more Shock crit, and a 15% hot on crits. Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: wowgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/18/t8-set-bonuses-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-19122</link>
		<dc:creator>wowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading thottbot now, you&#039;ll find the +15 spell power bonus on the 4p bonus for priests =/

http://thottbot.com/test/?set=833

I really hope that there&#039;s a mistake there. 15 is almost nothing &gt;&lt;

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;wowgirls last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/wowgirl/~3/LlTxKxmquVs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tier 8 set bÃƒÂ´nus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading thottbot now, you&#8217;ll find the +15 spell power bonus on the 4p bonus for priests =/</p>
<p><a href="http://thottbot.com/test/?set=833" rel="nofollow">http://thottbot.com/test/?set=833</a></p>
<p>I really hope that there&#8217;s a mistake there. 15 is almost nothing &gt;&lt;</p>
<p><abbr><em>wowgirls last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/wowgirl/~3/LlTxKxmquVs/" rel="nofollow">Tier 8 set bÃƒÂ´nus</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: SuicidalPriest</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/18/t8-set-bonuses-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-19118</link>
		<dc:creator>SuicidalPriest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not too amazed by the 4 item set bonus tbh... (for priests) It&#039;s decent but not WOW. What&#039;s the meaning by this? Keep a shield on all  the magic dps/healers? =/

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;SuicidalPriests last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://suicidalpriest.blogspot.com/2009/03/i-have-failed.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I have failed...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not too amazed by the 4 item set bonus tbh&#8230; (for priests) It&#8217;s decent but not WOW. What&#8217;s the meaning by this? Keep a shield on all  the magic dps/healers? =/</p>
<p><abbr><em>SuicidalPriests last blog post..<a href="http://suicidalpriest.blogspot.com/2009/03/i-have-failed.html" rel="nofollow">I have failed&#8230;</a></em></abbr></p>
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