Comments on: 5 Reasons Why the PTR Sucks http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/ Practical advice for World of Warcraft healers and leaders Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:13:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Erwyn http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18848 Erwyn Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:33:21 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18848 About congestion: Ulduar is also only open for specific times which forces everyone to sign on at the same time to test. I once tried to get into a raid but due to lag and server crashes I never made it into the instance :( About congestion: Ulduar is also only open for specific times which forces everyone to sign on at the same time to test. I once tried to get into a raid but due to lag and server crashes I never made it into the instance :(

]]> By: Duct Tape and a Prayer » Linkerator: 3/10/09 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18830 Duct Tape and a Prayer » Linkerator: 3/10/09 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:41:17 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18830 [...] 5 Reasons Why the PTR Sucks from World of Matticus [...] [...] 5 Reasons Why the PTR Sucks from World of Matticus [...]

]]> By: Keeva http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18787 Keeva Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:00:22 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18787 PTR prices are insanely high because everyone copies over 4 characters with as much money in their bags as possible. In turn, people need to copy 4 characters with enough money as possible to be able to afford the insanely high PTR prices. And round and round we go! <abbr><em>Keevas last blog post..<a href="http://treebarkjacket.blogspot.com/2009/03/very-quick-undocumented-changes-in-31.html" rel="nofollow">Very quick undocumented changes in 3.1</a></abbr></em> PTR prices are insanely high because everyone copies over 4 characters with as much money in their bags as possible.

In turn, people need to copy 4 characters with enough money as possible to be able to afford the insanely high PTR prices.

And round and round we go!

Keevas last blog post..Very quick undocumented changes in 3.1

]]> By: Alorina http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18779 Alorina Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:23:42 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18779 haha Who'd have thought I'd ever see the day when the Port Mann was compared to something in the WoWverse. My solution to the hell that is the PTR? Stay far away and hope that others have more patience than I do. Thanks for doing what you can with the limited PTR :o) haha Who’d have thought I’d ever see the day when the Port Mann was compared to something in the WoWverse.

My solution to the hell that is the PTR? Stay far away and hope that others have more patience than I do.

Thanks for doing what you can with the limited PTR :o )

]]> By: LXj http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18775 LXj Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:48:46 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18775 Well, there is actually one reason why PTR sucks: YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE! Well, not actually you, but that other guy. What is the purpose of PTR? Surprise, surprise: testing! You know, finding bugs and reporting them to developers. Testing different specs and sending feedback. What do 99% of players do on PTR? Hanging around, trying to see the content earlier than they are supposed to, forming 2-man raids to sneak into Ulduar... When you see some spells havingly nerfed 2 days after 3.0.8, you start to guess, did anyone with that particular spec actually went into a raid at PTR? NOOOO, everyone was bored to hell with Naxx at live servers! They "tested" how does Night Elf look on Mechanostrider That's of course is natural: if you give a way of looking at new exciting things, people will go look at them. Well, there is actually one reason why PTR sucks: YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE! Well, not actually you, but that other guy.

What is the purpose of PTR? Surprise, surprise: testing! You know, finding bugs and reporting them to developers. Testing different specs and sending feedback.

What do 99% of players do on PTR? Hanging around, trying to see the content earlier than they are supposed to, forming 2-man raids to sneak into Ulduar…

When you see some spells havingly nerfed 2 days after 3.0.8, you start to guess, did anyone with that particular spec actually went into a raid at PTR? NOOOO, everyone was bored to hell with Naxx at live servers! They “tested” how does Night Elf look on Mechanostrider

That’s of course is natural: if you give a way of looking at new exciting things, people will go look at them.

]]> By: Omenscourge http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18773 Omenscourge Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:31:07 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18773 Hey Matt, Here's some more reasons the ptr sucks. A little overlap but I beleive there's a common theme. http://omenscourge.blogspot.com/2009/02/top-10-reasons-ptr-sucks.html <abbr><em>Omenscourges last blog post..<a href="http://omenscourge.blogspot.com/2009/03/evolution-of-personal-professions.html" rel="nofollow">Evolution of Personal Professions</a></abbr></em> Hey Matt,

Here’s some more reasons the ptr sucks. A little overlap but I beleive there’s a common theme.

http://omenscourge.blogspot.com/2009/02/top-10-reasons-ptr-sucks.html

Omenscourges last blog post..Evolution of Personal Professions

]]> By: Aurik http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18771 Aurik Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:53:17 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18771 I've always enjoyed pottering about on PTRs and, I agree, they've become a bit of a circus now. Yes, all Europe's servers are different language flavours - the English test server is overcrowded to hell and the others less so, meaning that a lot of the top guilds are now testing on Spanish or other language realms from what I hear. I feel there has been a lot of bitching about people going to 'sightsee' and whilst this is a problem, it's an issue caused by, as you say, people being bored with content. I've never felt treated so second-class by many of the 'higher eschelons' of raiding because I don't go to the ptr to test raid content but the other pve content... High end raiders seem to think that the ptr is simply a way to train for faster kills outside of the ptr and even Blizzard's split system has not stopped that attitude. Asking them to 'add new servers' is probably not going to happen - they already seem pretty overstretched in that department. No idea how they could alleviate it otherwise without limiting signups to the ptr, though how thy could do it without being arbitrary I have no idea. /hug I’ve always enjoyed pottering about on PTRs and, I agree, they’ve become a bit of a circus now.

Yes, all Europe’s servers are different language flavours – the English test server is overcrowded to hell and the others less so, meaning that a lot of the top guilds are now testing on Spanish or other language realms from what I hear.

I feel there has been a lot of bitching about people going to ‘sightsee’ and whilst this is a problem, it’s an issue caused by, as you say, people being bored with content. I’ve never felt treated so second-class by many of the ‘higher eschelons’ of raiding because I don’t go to the ptr to test raid content but the other pve content… High end raiders seem to think that the ptr is simply a way to train for faster kills outside of the ptr and even Blizzard’s split system has not stopped that attitude.

Asking them to ‘add new servers’ is probably not going to happen – they already seem pretty overstretched in that department. No idea how they could alleviate it otherwise without limiting signups to the ptr, though how thy could do it without being arbitrary I have no idea.

/hug

]]> By: Chris Anthony http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18770 Chris Anthony Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:46:33 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18770 Bonkers, I really like that idea - it could even be automated, so that if one person enters an instance, a number of slots on the server equal to that person's current group/raid size are reserved (for X amount of time, to prevent someone forming a 40-person raid and then not doing anything with it), without the group leader having to take explicit action. Bonkers, I really like that idea – it could even be automated, so that if one person enters an instance, a number of slots on the server equal to that person’s current group/raid size are reserved (for X amount of time, to prevent someone forming a 40-person raid and then not doing anything with it), without the group leader having to take explicit action.

]]> By: drug http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18767 drug Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:56:58 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18767 My favorite solution to some of the problems would be harder raid content. I don't ever want a PTR again where I'm so bored and full of loot that I download the client. Haven't set foot in Ulduar though, still not sure if testing on PTR won't spoil the fun for me. I'm really tempted by the thought of working on a boss with no strats. Then again I don't like to do bug testing for a monthly fee, just because there's nothing else to do. Actually I started reading books and stuff. <abbr><em>drugs last blog post..<a href="http://www.shieldsup.ch/2009/03/09/ptr-ulduar-arcane-mage-and-good-old-times/" rel="nofollow">PTR, Ulduar, Arcane Mage and good old Times</a></abbr></em> My favorite solution to some of the problems would be harder raid content. I don’t ever want a PTR again where I’m so bored and full of loot that I download the client. Haven’t set foot in Ulduar though, still not sure if testing on PTR won’t spoil the fun for me. I’m really tempted by the thought of working on a boss with no strats. Then again I don’t like to do bug testing for a monthly fee, just because there’s nothing else to do.

Actually I started reading books and stuff.

drugs last blog post..PTR, Ulduar, Arcane Mage and good old Times

]]> By: Matticus http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/03/09/5-reasons-why-the-ptr-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-18764 Matticus Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:12:52 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=4135#comment-18764 Bonkers: Yeah, that's true too. Like a queue to get in, right? The PTR forums are usually good for feedback (and I've read some of them). Bonkers: Yeah, that’s true too. Like a queue to get in, right? The PTR forums are usually good for feedback (and I’ve read some of them).

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