Comments on: What GMs Want to See on Your Guild App

By: Fallen « Vigilance

Fallen « Vigilance — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:38:47 +0000

[...] I’ve read a lot of post about how to app to a guild or heard stories of horrible apps. In this post I will talk about the exact opposite. In [...]

By: Matticus

Matticus — Wed, 27 May 2009 20:23:58 +0000

Bitter: Unlike Everquest, WoW has a lot of morons that play the game. 11 million+ subscribers vs whatever the number is that Everquest has. THat’s something to keep in mind. Note that you were in a hard core raiding guild in Everquest. I’d say that everyone who played Everquest already was hardcore to an extent. Probably a lot more hardcore than a lot of WoW players. Yes they can contribute and be gatherers or crafters. But I doubt anyone really pays 15 bucks a month just to farm. Like you said, this isn’t a job.

The application process for most guilds is to filter out stupid people that want to apply and try to get into the pants of your guild. It’s up to the GMs themselves how they want to frame it. Some have relaxed and loose guidelines. Others have a more stringent process. You’re right, this is a game. No one wants to play with people who are going to stand in fires. While it’s not a bullet proof method, it does have its advantages.

By: Bitterend

Bitterend — Wed, 27 May 2009 19:54:56 +0000

I think someone should start a new website and call it the woman of warcraft! It would be sort of a showcase for all the hot woman who play wow so we can dispell that old myth that only geeking looking guys play these games. And I would defenantly like to see Wynthea and Sydera as the first two featured members

By: Bitterend

Bitterend — Wed, 27 May 2009 19:47:59 +0000

I think guilds really shoot themselves in the foot by limiting classes and races and the number of members they except etc; this is especially true in WoW where raid sizes are more limited than they are in Everquest. And where most raids are instanced unlike Everquest. There is no reason a guild cant become huge and still function effectively. All that is needed is an officer core large enough to run things and enough raid leaders to maintain multiple raid forces. And who is to say that everyone in a large raiding guild must raid? If you have a number of raiding forces why cant some other members or new recruits choose to be members but not be in the raiding forces? they can contribute to the guild in other areas like being gatherers or crafters or any number of other areas or just to have fun and make friends. Far to often people think that raidiing guilds and casual family guilds need to be exclusive, this is only true in the minds of guild leaders with limited vision. I was a member of a hard core raiding guild in Everquest with over 400 active members and we fielded 2 and sometimes 3 sixty to seventy two man raid forces simultaniously 3 to 4 nights a week. The guild would except almost anyone who wished to become a member (regardless of class or level) as long as they were not drama queens, but once a member they would be granted raid status uppon meeting certain strict guidlines. This allows for a guild to experience a best of both worlds. yes there are some negatives whichIm sure the ubber elitist will soon point out but the positives far outweigh them. So stop being so narrow minded and be all you can be

Oh and let up on all the dam punctuation and grammar crap this is not college level English here nor is it a RL job interview, its a friggin game so goooooooo get laid and take a deep breath, and chil!

By: The Daily Quest: Of podcasts, PvP and Paladin performance | World of Warcraft Reloaded

Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:54:59 +0000

[...] also has a great piece on what guilds are looking for in applications. It goes nicely hand in hand with our own 8 Things Raiding Guilds Want To See From Their [...]

By: Amava

Amava — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:31:25 +0000

Oooohh, my blog actually helped open up opportunity for me. Happy Hunter. thx for the link. regarding applications: Follow directions: If a guild has a template, use it. If they ask for specific information, give specific answers. If the guild has no template, give an executive summary in bullet-format at the top and provide detail below. GM's who skim will get their information quickly, GM's who like detail will read further. That format works well in any persuasive writing. Open with summary, follow with supporting detail, close with restatement of the summary or an action-plan. Amavas last blog post..ORA2 Tank Frame Misdirection Addon?

By: Jormundgard

Jormundgard — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:26:04 +0000

Linking your blog can backfire. I apped for a guild recently and didn’t link my blog, but for whatever reason the GM looked up the email address and it took him there. He then publicly quoted posts in the app and said that I didn’t have the right attitude to join.

I think I could have still had a slot if I had insisted, but I got so bothered by the public quotes that I just withdrew the application. All’s fair in public posts, but the lack of sensitivity turned me off.

By: Built Horde Tough » Archive » The Daily Quest: Of podcasts, PvP and Paladin performance

Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:23:03 +0000

[...] also has a great piece on what guilds are looking for in applications. It goes nicely hand in hand with our own 8 Things Raiding Guilds Want To See From Their [...]

By: Perrin

Perrin — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:13:11 +0000

I totally agree with all the points in the post except the first. We’ve turned down people because they’ve used the bare minimum of words to explain their point.

Q: What Addons do you use? (DBM or Big Wigs, Omen, oRA2 are required)

A: Big Wigs, Omen, oRA2.

or the other great one:

Q: If you disagreed with the RL’s strategy in a fight, how would you approach the RL about it?

A: Talk to them.

If you don’t write enough, it looks like you spent 5 mins writing a throw-away answer that indicates you don’t care enough to take the time to write a proper answer. Especially on the Addons question, for some reason, bad apps never tell us any other addons than the required, and one guy even put “DBM or Big Wigs, Omen, oRA2″.

By: LevelOne

LevelOne — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:49:29 +0000

I’ve been lurking here for a while, so taking this opportunity to say thankyou for all the informed threads and comments I have picked up. This paricular thread piqued my interest enough to make my first post due to my somewhat unique position…
How would an application be viewed from a person who has a raiding char/officer in an EU guild who needs to start from scratch over on a US realm?

This is my position currently.
Whilst I havent yet created a US account, I have relocated to the states. Since Blizzard will not/can’t do EU to US transfers, I have to build up a new character from scratch.
My first thought is to find a casual guild to get to 80 with and then apply to a raiding guild later, but would be curious to know if a raiding guild would consider adoption of a char who would level with them for the purposes of raiding with them later?
I am assuming here that the destination guild would be one where I could raid 3 nights a week, and one where lower level alts were welcome.
If an application was accepted, then both I and the guild would get to know each other, group occasionally, and if things worked out from both sides, I would be raiding with people I know later.

Oh, and whilst a teeny bit off-topic, would be very grateful for any tips on how to choose a server to start a new main on. ( apologies for off-topic /slapself )