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	<title>Comments on: Your Guild&#8217;s Dual Spec Policy: What Will it Be?</title>
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		<title>By: Dual Specs - What&#8217;s all the fuss? &#171; Dazed and Confused In Azeroth</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/02/16/your-guilds-dual-spec-policy-what-will-it-be/comment-page-1/#comment-18461</link>
		<dc:creator>Dual Specs - What&#8217;s all the fuss? &#171; Dazed and Confused In Azeroth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Your GuildÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Dual Spec Policy: What Will it Be? Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Epic Failure: aka I have a lot to learnMMO Guide: WoW Pick Up Groups (PUGs)Karazhan Group II Ã¢â‚¬â€ Preparing for KaraWe Want a Wendy of Our Own [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Your GuildÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Dual Spec Policy: What Will it Be? Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Epic Failure: aka I have a lot to learnMMO Guide: WoW Pick Up Groups (PUGs)Karazhan Group II Ã¢â‚¬â€ Preparing for KaraWe Want a Wendy of Our Own [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bear Butt Blogger Ã‚Â» Dual Spec? I agree with the Noob!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Bear Butt Blogger Ã‚Â» Dual Spec? I agree with the Noob!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posted an article a while back where he made some interesting points about how a Raid Leader/Guild Leader really needs to plan ahead for how their guild will handle [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] posted an article a while back where he made some interesting points about how a Raid Leader/Guild Leader really needs to plan ahead for how their guild will handle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gothica</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/02/16/your-guilds-dual-spec-policy-what-will-it-be/comment-page-1/#comment-18339</link>
		<dc:creator>Gothica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup sorry I really mean healing raiders whose dps relies on different stats ie holy pallies, shammies who dps as enhancement and druids who dps as feral.

Yup spellpower dps offspecs for raiders in healing gear are fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup sorry I really mean healing raiders whose dps relies on different stats ie holy pallies, shammies who dps as enhancement and druids who dps as feral.</p>
<p>Yup spellpower dps offspecs for raiders in healing gear are fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Perrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;With healing raiders your raid gear doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t help the rest of the game.&quot;

Having played around with boomkinians a lot now, I&#039;ve actually found the opposite to be true.  When I&#039;m specced boomkin I actually drop all my +Hit gear for dailies, farming and other such things.  With 7% hit from talents, I need zero hit to cover everything Heroic and below with no miss chance.  Therefore I use my healer gear because the +Crit or +Haste on it is better than the +Hit I get from raiding boomkin gear.  I actually sacrifice the DPS stats for Hit when I go into a raid as a boomkin.

Plus the extra crit give me a better chance of 1-shotting mobs with a 12K Starfire :-P

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Perrins last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://barkingup.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/dual-spec-the-impact-on-raiding/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dual Spec - The impact on raiding&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With healing raiders your raid gear doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t help the rest of the game.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having played around with boomkinians a lot now, I&#8217;ve actually found the opposite to be true.  When I&#8217;m specced boomkin I actually drop all my +Hit gear for dailies, farming and other such things.  With 7% hit from talents, I need zero hit to cover everything Heroic and below with no miss chance.  Therefore I use my healer gear because the +Crit or +Haste on it is better than the +Hit I get from raiding boomkin gear.  I actually sacrifice the DPS stats for Hit when I go into a raid as a boomkin.</p>
<p>Plus the extra crit give me a better chance of 1-shotting mobs with a 12K Starfire <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><abbr><em>Perrins last blog post..<a href="http://barkingup.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/dual-spec-the-impact-on-raiding/" rel="nofollow">Dual Spec &#8211; The impact on raiding</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Gothica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gothica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this issue is actually quite difficult and here&#039;s why.

In 3.1 in Matticus&#039;s guild you will have 3 different levels of gearing:

1) pure dps. Items are gained by dkp. Items are free. The guild bank supports expensive enchants on those items

2) healers with caster dps offspecs. Items gained for main spec actually are nostly pretty good for dps offspec. Just swapping out a couple of pieces with +hit should make the offspec perfectly viable and an expensive + spell damage weapon enchant will support both roles

3) tanks and healers with physical dps specs. Offspec items cost 100g beyond the first in a week plus you have to pay to gem and enchant it. Developing an offspec, especially if your two specs are tank and healer is expensive beyond your capacity to comfortably grind cash.

OK, perhaps it won&#039;t work out that way for the particular players in Matt&#039;s guild - sometimes these things come down to individual cases. Some healer might be rich from playing the AH or some tank might be a fantastic AOE grinder. Or people may have so much offspec gear already that one item a week is really all they need to get, especially if Ulduar progress is slow.

It&#039;s basically a recurrence of a long standing game quandary. If you want to raid it&#039;s easiest to get a spot if you are healer. But arguably it&#039;s best if you can get a spot as a dps. 

A raiding dps can grind and do dailies by simply two-shotting the mobs. It&#039;s fun and it lures you to do more of it because you feel so uber. The more you raid the easier grinding and to some extent pvp ownage becomes because your raid gear supports the rest of the game.

With healing raiders your raid gear doesn&#039;t help the rest of the game. Your dailies and grinding isn&#039;t particularly fun. Now a dps dual spec offers a cheap and easy way to make yourself a grinder and for these guys it&#039;s just as well. Because for the privilege of healing they will have to pay 100g for some of their items plus bear the cost of gemming and enchanting two sets. That&#039;s a big burden of extra grinding required from tanks and healers who are the least optimised for out of raid gold generation.

The Holy Pallies and Resto Druids will be subsidising the Hunters and Mages, that seems pretty crazy.

On the other hand I do accept that players can sometimes fill a bank with offspec stuff they&#039;ll never use.

It&#039;s not a simple issue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this issue is actually quite difficult and here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>In 3.1 in Matticus&#8217;s guild you will have 3 different levels of gearing:</p>
<p>1) pure dps. Items are gained by dkp. Items are free. The guild bank supports expensive enchants on those items</p>
<p>2) healers with caster dps offspecs. Items gained for main spec actually are nostly pretty good for dps offspec. Just swapping out a couple of pieces with +hit should make the offspec perfectly viable and an expensive + spell damage weapon enchant will support both roles</p>
<p>3) tanks and healers with physical dps specs. Offspec items cost 100g beyond the first in a week plus you have to pay to gem and enchant it. Developing an offspec, especially if your two specs are tank and healer is expensive beyond your capacity to comfortably grind cash.</p>
<p>OK, perhaps it won&#8217;t work out that way for the particular players in Matt&#8217;s guild &#8211; sometimes these things come down to individual cases. Some healer might be rich from playing the AH or some tank might be a fantastic AOE grinder. Or people may have so much offspec gear already that one item a week is really all they need to get, especially if Ulduar progress is slow.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s basically a recurrence of a long standing game quandary. If you want to raid it&#8217;s easiest to get a spot if you are healer. But arguably it&#8217;s best if you can get a spot as a dps. </p>
<p>A raiding dps can grind and do dailies by simply two-shotting the mobs. It&#8217;s fun and it lures you to do more of it because you feel so uber. The more you raid the easier grinding and to some extent pvp ownage becomes because your raid gear supports the rest of the game.</p>
<p>With healing raiders your raid gear doesn&#8217;t help the rest of the game. Your dailies and grinding isn&#8217;t particularly fun. Now a dps dual spec offers a cheap and easy way to make yourself a grinder and for these guys it&#8217;s just as well. Because for the privilege of healing they will have to pay 100g for some of their items plus bear the cost of gemming and enchanting two sets. That&#8217;s a big burden of extra grinding required from tanks and healers who are the least optimised for out of raid gold generation.</p>
<p>The Holy Pallies and Resto Druids will be subsidising the Hunters and Mages, that seems pretty crazy.</p>
<p>On the other hand I do accept that players can sometimes fill a bank with offspec stuff they&#8217;ll never use.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a simple issue</p>
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		<title>By: Aaloria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re a small guild currently and I suspect our policy won&#039;t change much from what it is now. Main spec gets first option, offspec gets second. As far as gemming and chanting, we provide what is available in the guild bank or what the players want to donate, but if we are out, you just have to go buy it in the AH if you want it right at that moment. So players know it&#039;s beneficial to add to the guild bank so that there will be materials for later use.

For the record, I am resto, but do carry 3 sets. Because of this I&#039;m expected to have them available and ready for action at a moments notice. I don&#039;t have a problem with that since I&#039;m being given the gear. That works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re a small guild currently and I suspect our policy won&#8217;t change much from what it is now. Main spec gets first option, offspec gets second. As far as gemming and chanting, we provide what is available in the guild bank or what the players want to donate, but if we are out, you just have to go buy it in the AH if you want it right at that moment. So players know it&#8217;s beneficial to add to the guild bank so that there will be materials for later use.</p>
<p>For the record, I am resto, but do carry 3 sets. Because of this I&#8217;m expected to have them available and ready for action at a moments notice. I don&#8217;t have a problem with that since I&#8217;m being given the gear. That works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kargos of Uldum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kargos of Uldum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Procuring the funds for the guild through offset pieces is an excellent way of doing it.

What we do is charge an Abyss Crystal or the current market value in gold to cover the cost of the crystal. This all goes to funding the guild as far as items go (progression nights) and guild repairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Procuring the funds for the guild through offset pieces is an excellent way of doing it.</p>
<p>What we do is charge an Abyss Crystal or the current market value in gold to cover the cost of the crystal. This all goes to funding the guild as far as items go (progression nights) and guild repairs.</p>
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		<title>By: DocHoliday aka Kimboslice</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocHoliday aka Kimboslice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not swimming in Abyss Crystals.  We have been giving out too much loot that will have little or no value in what that loot returns to the guild.   In a dkp guild you pay for all your loot but in our guild we use loot council and we have been somewhat negligent when it comes to paying back the guild for loot received.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not swimming in Abyss Crystals.  We have been giving out too much loot that will have little or no value in what that loot returns to the guild.   In a dkp guild you pay for all your loot but in our guild we use loot council and we have been somewhat negligent when it comes to paying back the guild for loot received.</p>
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		<title>By: Allindra</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/02/16/your-guilds-dual-spec-policy-what-will-it-be/comment-page-1/#comment-18099</link>
		<dc:creator>Allindra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Matt, I LIKE the way your language and blogging has evolved.  I&#039;m an officer in my guild and helped form it to begin with so I probably &quot;think&quot; the same way when it comes to the guild and the people in it.  I think it&#039;s a good thing. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Matt, I LIKE the way your language and blogging has evolved.  I&#8217;m an officer in my guild and helped form it to begin with so I probably &#8220;think&#8221; the same way when it comes to the guild and the people in it.  I think it&#8217;s a good thing. <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dual Spec - The impact on raiding &#171; Barking up the right Tree (of Life).</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dual Spec - The impact on raiding &#171; Barking up the right Tree (of Life).</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this in mind, (and having pondered Matticus&#8217; post on Dual Specs and Kreeoni&#8217;s post on Dual Specs) I think that the fairest way I can see to distribute loot [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this in mind, (and having pondered Matticus&#8217; post on Dual Specs and Kreeoni&#8217;s post on Dual Specs) I think that the fairest way I can see to distribute loot [...]</p>
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