Comments on: Battered Guildie Syndrome is a Serious Problem http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/ Practical advice for World of Warcraft healers and leaders Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:13:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: asadpriest http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-21049 asadpriest Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:51:59 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-21049 ive been a battered guildy since 2007. i love my guild, i use to be all alone before until i met their warrior gm who's also a tank. i had a rogue back then, but i made a healer..for what reason i dont know. it's just that i loved the fact i could get into groups easily whereas my rogue couldnt. anyway im still very grateful for being a part of my guild except, i have to always join their raids..like i cant watch a movie sometimes coz theyres gonna be a raid.. ive been a battered guildy since 2007. i love my guild, i use to be all alone before until i met their warrior gm who’s also a tank. i had a rogue back then, but i made a healer..for what reason i dont know. it’s just that i loved the fact i could get into groups easily whereas my rogue couldnt.

anyway im still very grateful for being a part of my guild except, i have to always join their raids..like i cant watch a movie sometimes coz theyres gonna be a raid..

]]> By: Kimberly http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17416 Kimberly Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:02:47 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-17416 Oh my gosh...been there. Except, we were a casual guild whose top 5 players took their max-level characters out of our guild for a raiding guild. But they expected those of us who remained to help level their alts. So they, too, could leave our guild for the raiding guild. After a warrior left for the raiding guild after I spent nights and nights helping him tweak his prot build, I kicked all their alts out. Which pissed them off, royally. But then we were left with a bunch of incredibly unmotivated players, disheartened that all of the max level "necessary" players left. We went from being able to run 10-player content to not being able to put together a decent 5-player group. We had had no tanks and I was the only healer. (insert healer-guilt here) Another guildie and I wanted to "SAVE THE GUILD!" So we tried to get them to where they said they wanted to be by running low level instances to help them level, but to be honest, I think they all started to *believe* they would never be good players. The other guildie and I /gquit when the initial group of now-raiders started contacting our guildmates trying to get them to leave our guild for a new "casual" arm of their new raiding guild. We rolled Horde on another server some time later. Happily ever after...for now. <abbr><em>Kimberlys last blog post..<a href="http://blogs.courierpostonline.com/worldofwarcraft/2009/01/27/whoa-fan-mail/" rel="nofollow">Whoa! Fan mail!</a></abbr></em> Oh my gosh…been there.

Except, we were a casual guild whose top 5 players took their max-level characters out of our guild for a raiding guild. But they expected those of us who remained to help level their alts. So they, too, could leave our guild for the raiding guild.

After a warrior left for the raiding guild after I spent nights and nights helping him tweak his prot build, I kicked all their alts out. Which pissed them off, royally.

But then we were left with a bunch of incredibly unmotivated players, disheartened that all of the max level “necessary” players left. We went from being able to run 10-player content to not being able to put together a decent 5-player group. We had had no tanks and I was the only healer. (insert healer-guilt here) Another guildie and I wanted to “SAVE THE GUILD!” So we tried to get them to where they said they wanted to be by running low level instances to help them level, but to be honest, I think they all started to *believe* they would never be good players.

The other guildie and I /gquit when the initial group of now-raiders started contacting our guildmates trying to get them to leave our guild for a new “casual” arm of their new raiding guild.

We rolled Horde on another server some time later. Happily ever after…for now.

Kimberlys last blog post..Whoa! Fan mail!

]]> By: ailetha http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17288 ailetha Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:45:21 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-17288 In my last guild, the officers would say one thing to draw recruits in and do something completely different and less hardcore, would never actually enforce the rules they claimed to have. Then they would pull guilt trip type 'you owe us' crap. This guild is nothing like that, the GM lives and breathes the rules, what i see is what i get, and he doesn't pull the guilt trip stuff on everyone who goes their own way - i absolutely love it. In my last guild, the officers would say one thing to draw recruits in and do something completely different and less hardcore, would never actually enforce the rules they claimed to have. Then they would pull guilt trip type ‘you owe us’ crap. This guild is nothing like that, the GM lives and breathes the rules, what i see is what i get, and he doesn’t pull the guilt trip stuff on everyone who goes their own way – i absolutely love it.

]]> By: ailetha http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17287 ailetha Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:37:46 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-17287 i don't know what's worse, someone who won't leave a caustic guild like that or the guild who makes people into that, trying to keep them out of guilt and acting like their members owe them. it's totally co dependent and wrong on both sides, i don't know why people would treat each other that way. i've been in guilds like that and i'm in one i love now, one i've been in for well over a year, and now I know what it's like to have a respectful relationship with a professional guild who doesn't pull that codependent crap. we even screen applicants very carefully to make sure their personal goals are in line with the guild's, otherwise it just ends in drama. i don’t know what’s worse, someone who won’t leave a caustic guild like that or the guild who makes people into that, trying to keep them out of guilt and acting like their members owe them.

it’s totally co dependent and wrong on both sides, i don’t know why people would treat each other that way.

i’ve been in guilds like that and i’m in one i love now, one i’ve been in for well over a year, and now I know what it’s like to have a respectful relationship with a professional guild who doesn’t pull that codependent crap. we even screen applicants very carefully to make sure their personal goals are in line with the guild’s, otherwise it just ends in drama.

]]> By: Wilgo http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17204 Wilgo Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:38:11 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-17204 It is soooo true this post!! I was on an alliance guild too that was floundering in mediocrity, and I worked my way up to officer and class leader. My friends had long since headed over to horde side where they were having much more success in raids and pvp. My loyalty to the guild would not let me leave. What finally did it for me was when I was left out of our standard arena group for 2 weeks in a row (even though they made sure thier friends got their games in). First, I quit the arena team but not the guild. Then, out of protest, this sounds so funny now, I just stopped playing my alliance toon and played my horde toons for a couple of weeks. I came back and found my officer status stripped. After that it was horde toons only for the most part. I am in the top horde guild on the server now and we crush all content. Funny thing is I never did leave the alliance guild...just started playing my horde toons and left my absence to show my decision. It is soooo true this post!! I was on an alliance guild too that was floundering in mediocrity, and I worked my way up to officer and class leader. My friends had long since headed over to horde side where they were having much more success in raids and pvp. My loyalty to the guild would not let me leave.

What finally did it for me was when I was left out of our standard arena group for 2 weeks in a row (even though they made sure thier friends got their games in). First, I quit the arena team but not the guild. Then, out of protest, this sounds so funny now, I just stopped playing my alliance toon and played my horde toons for a couple of weeks. I came back and found my officer status stripped.

After that it was horde toons only for the most part. I am in the top horde guild on the server now and we crush all content.

Funny thing is I never did leave the alliance guild…just started playing my horde toons and left my absence to show my decision.

]]> By: Captain The First http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17130 Captain The First Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:06:10 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-17130 BGS when altruism goes too far. you don't feel trolls... why feed leeches? <abbr><em>Captain The Firsts last blog post..<a href="http://noobding.blogspot.com/2009/01/nurf-my-warlock.html" rel="nofollow">NURF MY WARLOCK!</a></abbr></em> BGS when altruism goes too far.

you don’t feel trolls… why feed leeches?

Captain The Firsts last blog post..NURF MY WARLOCK!

]]> By: Anna http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17110 Anna Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:51:05 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-17110 "I think i am infected. But I CANT leave my guild, because it would really ruin the guild. And a 6 year old WoW Guild is something, which is worth to keep it alive, i think." ~ comment from jedimax I'm sorry, how were you in a guild before the game was even released? Didn't WoW just celebrate it's 4th anniversary? Being able to time-travel must really help you to keep ahead of things. Anyway, I don't know how serious this post was but I agree with it fully. I *was* suffering a WoW addiction. In the past week, I haven't logged on until the raid leader lets my partner know the raids are about to start. The guild leader is an insufferable, know it all, rude, arrogant and downright obnoxious person. She whines constantly when something she wants doesn't drop, bitches about her bad luck, and yells, screams, swears and abuses everyone on vent. Funnily enough, our raids go alot smoother when she's not in them, despite her extremely high dps. She's ruining the game for me. Instead I've found myself doing other things and doing everything I can to avoid playing the game. I love the game, don't get me wrong. Perhaps she's doing me a favour.... “I think i am infected. But I CANT leave my guild, because it would really ruin the guild. And a 6 year old WoW Guild is something, which is worth to keep it alive, i think.” ~ comment from jedimax

I’m sorry, how were you in a guild before the game was even released? Didn’t WoW just celebrate it’s 4th anniversary? Being able to time-travel must really help you to keep ahead of things.

Anyway, I don’t know how serious this post was but I agree with it fully. I *was* suffering a WoW addiction. In the past week, I haven’t logged on until the raid leader lets my partner know the raids are about to start. The guild leader is an insufferable, know it all, rude, arrogant and downright obnoxious person. She whines constantly when something she wants doesn’t drop, bitches about her bad luck, and yells, screams, swears and abuses everyone on vent. Funnily enough, our raids go alot smoother when she’s not in them, despite her extremely high dps. She’s ruining the game for me. Instead I’ve found myself doing other things and doing everything I can to avoid playing the game. I love the game, don’t get me wrong.

Perhaps she’s doing me a favour….

]]> By: Trinia http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17106 Trinia Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:32:04 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-17106 does this mean that all the good and hardworking players should just gquit our guild? j/k Hope you guys are doing well. Trin does this mean that all the good and hardworking players should just gquit our guild?
j/k

Hope you guys are doing well.
Trin

]]> By: Dynasor http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17100 Dynasor Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:27:32 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-17100 That's a very familiar story..... That’s a very familiar story…..

]]> By: Boondockst http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2009/01/16/battered-guildie-syndrome-is-a-serious-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-17095 Boondockst Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:03:50 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=3360#comment-17095 I am recovering from this now. My guild and I basically had 2 conflicting ideas of how the game should be played, but I couldn't bear the thought of abandoning the guild that I helped raise from the ashes. My remedy is a mandatory (minimum) of being guildless for 7 days, and then looking for a new guild to join in with for some heroics and runs that seem to flow on the same vibe you do. Several guilds may get used in the process. I am recovering from this now. My guild and I basically had 2 conflicting ideas of how the game should be played, but I couldn’t bear the thought of abandoning the guild that I helped raise from the ashes.
My remedy is a mandatory (minimum) of being guildless for 7 days, and then looking for a new guild to join in with for some heroics and runs that seem to flow on the same vibe you do.
Several guilds may get used in the process.

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