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	<title>Comments on: An Event Every Guild Leader Goes Through Once in Their Career</title>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s almost 2 months past your incident, but it seems to have incited a &quot;riot&quot; concerning guild politics.

From what you wrote, including the copy of the letter &quot;wayne&quot; sent you, I can completely understand his point of view.
1.  People get burned out.  If you are the one constantly being relied upon, it is even worse.  I&#039;m just dps, but I&#039;m relied upon and sometimes the weight is just too much to bear.  Sometimes I want to play an alt without being guilted into helping them clear content.

2.  You said this person would go with you guys before anyone else would (or at least the impression I got).  I would think that says much more than him wanting a break.  It says that he was there for the hard times when nobody else was.  I would think this would be deserving of a break.

3.  I am pretty well geared except for a couple of pieces as are many people in our raids.  I think some of us need to take a break if only to allow other people slots so they can be better geared.  

He may not have expressed his needs in the best way, but he knew you&#039;d be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s almost 2 months past your incident, but it seems to have incited a &#8220;riot&#8221; concerning guild politics.</p>
<p>From what you wrote, including the copy of the letter &#8220;wayne&#8221; sent you, I can completely understand his point of view.<br />
1.  People get burned out.  If you are the one constantly being relied upon, it is even worse.  I&#8217;m just dps, but I&#8217;m relied upon and sometimes the weight is just too much to bear.  Sometimes I want to play an alt without being guilted into helping them clear content.</p>
<p>2.  You said this person would go with you guys before anyone else would (or at least the impression I got).  I would think that says much more than him wanting a break.  It says that he was there for the hard times when nobody else was.  I would think this would be deserving of a break.</p>
<p>3.  I am pretty well geared except for a couple of pieces as are many people in our raids.  I think some of us need to take a break if only to allow other people slots so they can be better geared.  </p>
<p>He may not have expressed his needs in the best way, but he knew you&#8217;d be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late comment, I know, but I just came across this via linkage. 

Your post makes it sound like you&#039;re disappointed precisely because this guy&#039;s been rock-steady up until now, and the sudden &#039;on break until Ulduar&#039; therefore comes as a bolt from the blue.  If this guy wasn&#039;t part of your &#039;core&#039; until now, I&#039;d guess that simply saying &#039;time for a replacement&#039; would be much easier.

 I&#039;ll agree the sudden &#039;see ya&#039; is pretty badly done. But it may be that he has better reasons than his note lets on, and simply made some bad calls in handling things, or else some bad assumptions about how the guild would deal with this.

It might be worth it to drop &#039;Wayne&#039; a brief note to express the surprise/disappointment, and see if he&#039;s willing to work with you a bit. If he&#039;s not, then yeah, I&#039;d cheerfully join the other commenters who say &#039;find a new full-time healadin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late comment, I know, but I just came across this via linkage. </p>
<p>Your post makes it sound like you&#8217;re disappointed precisely because this guy&#8217;s been rock-steady up until now, and the sudden &#8216;on break until Ulduar&#8217; therefore comes as a bolt from the blue.  If this guy wasn&#8217;t part of your &#8216;core&#8217; until now, I&#8217;d guess that simply saying &#8216;time for a replacement&#8217; would be much easier.</p>
<p> I&#8217;ll agree the sudden &#8217;see ya&#8217; is pretty badly done. But it may be that he has better reasons than his note lets on, and simply made some bad calls in handling things, or else some bad assumptions about how the guild would deal with this.</p>
<p>It might be worth it to drop &#8216;Wayne&#8217; a brief note to express the surprise/disappointment, and see if he&#8217;s willing to work with you a bit. If he&#8217;s not, then yeah, I&#8217;d cheerfully join the other commenters who say &#8216;find a new full-time healadin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: HOLYforLIFE</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOLYforLIFE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am completely geared and ready for new content.  I still raid 4 nights a week with my guild because I am not a selfish prick.  I would not allow the pally to roll right back into &quot;his&quot; spot when he returns.  The message you are sending the other healers would be something along the lines of &quot;Hey guys, thanks for taking care of business while Mr. Pally did nothing.  Now that he is back you all can lose some raid time for him.&quot;  Also, when the new content becomes available whats not to say he will not do the same thing a few months into it?  Why gear someone only to see the gear go to waste because the raider never raids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am completely geared and ready for new content.  I still raid 4 nights a week with my guild because I am not a selfish prick.  I would not allow the pally to roll right back into &#8220;his&#8221; spot when he returns.  The message you are sending the other healers would be something along the lines of &#8220;Hey guys, thanks for taking care of business while Mr. Pally did nothing.  Now that he is back you all can lose some raid time for him.&#8221;  Also, when the new content becomes available whats not to say he will not do the same thing a few months into it?  Why gear someone only to see the gear go to waste because the raider never raids?</p>
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		<title>By: Oriniwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oriniwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a GL P.O.V I think this guy is a Grade A slime ball. However, that stance only works if he was a member of Impossibilium. We have created an continue to foster an environment of deep personal loyalty to the guild. So someone who behaved like that in my guild would be told something along the lines of &quot;don&#039;t let the door hit you on the way out.&quot; In Imposs, that&#039;s unacceptable behaviour. 

If your readers come from a guild with a different environment, they are likely to respond differently than I. There are raiders out there whowork their way through content by jumping from guild to guild, taking the loots they need and moving on to a guild that has better progression. And there are other players out there who see nothing wrong with this sort of behaviour. It all depends on what sort of player you are and what sort of guild you are in.

And to the folks who suggest this is Blizz&#039;s fault ... if you&#039;re bored with raiding, are you bored with your guild? Your professions? PvP? Real RP? Just chilling out with your guilides (assuming they are as good a set of friends as we have)?  I think if you look at WoW as &quot;a game where I go to raid&quot; then you&#039;re missing outon some really fun content, both programmed in and spontaneously created by the players around you.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oriniwens last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://oriniwen.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/behind-every-guild-leader/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Behind Every Guild Leader Ã¢â‚¬Â¦&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a GL P.O.V I think this guy is a Grade A slime ball. However, that stance only works if he was a member of Impossibilium. We have created an continue to foster an environment of deep personal loyalty to the guild. So someone who behaved like that in my guild would be told something along the lines of &#8220;don&#8217;t let the door hit you on the way out.&#8221; In Imposs, that&#8217;s unacceptable behaviour. </p>
<p>If your readers come from a guild with a different environment, they are likely to respond differently than I. There are raiders out there whowork their way through content by jumping from guild to guild, taking the loots they need and moving on to a guild that has better progression. And there are other players out there who see nothing wrong with this sort of behaviour. It all depends on what sort of player you are and what sort of guild you are in.</p>
<p>And to the folks who suggest this is Blizz&#8217;s fault &#8230; if you&#8217;re bored with raiding, are you bored with your guild? Your professions? PvP? Real RP? Just chilling out with your guilides (assuming they are as good a set of friends as we have)?  I think if you look at WoW as &#8220;a game where I go to raid&#8221; then you&#8217;re missing outon some really fun content, both programmed in and spontaneously created by the players around you.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Oriniwens last blog post..<a href="http://oriniwen.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/behind-every-guild-leader/" rel="nofollow">Behind Every Guild Leader Ã¢â‚¬Â¦</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Betty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer to this is fairly simple.

&quot;Hey Wayne,
No worries, have a nice break from WoW. Unfortunately since we still need a paladin in our raids we will be recruiting another. Simply put once Ulduar is released you will be competing for a raid spot against them, and since we reward people with higher attendance rate with spots first you may find yourself out of luck.

No hard feelings, just thought you&#039;d like to know, thanks for understanding

Matt&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer to this is fairly simple.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey Wayne,<br />
No worries, have a nice break from WoW. Unfortunately since we still need a paladin in our raids we will be recruiting another. Simply put once Ulduar is released you will be competing for a raid spot against them, and since we reward people with higher attendance rate with spots first you may find yourself out of luck.</p>
<p>No hard feelings, just thought you&#8217;d like to know, thanks for understanding</p>
<p>Matt&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 5 Mistaken Beliefs of Raiding Guilds : World of Matticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 Mistaken Beliefs of Raiding Guilds : World of Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comments from WednesdayÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s post drew a consensus where everyone called for a Gkick. As some readers observed, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not exactly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] comments from WednesdayÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s post drew a consensus where everyone called for a Gkick. As some readers observed, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not exactly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: the little paladin who didn&#8217;t &#171; Welcome to Spinksville!</title>
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		<dc:creator>the little paladin who didn&#8217;t &#171; Welcome to Spinksville!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we don&#8217;t know when this will be, estimate is a few months yet. Matticus, his guild leader, lets off some steam about it here. The Greedy Goblin defends the paladin, but I&#8217;m going to do it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we don&#8217;t know when this will be, estimate is a few months yet. Matticus, his guild leader, lets off some steam about it here. The Greedy Goblin defends the paladin, but I&#8217;m going to do it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Melf_Himself</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melf_Himself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why the raid end-game mechanic is an example of poor game design. This guy very probably did not plan on bailing on the guild, he just decided it wasn&#039;t fun anymore once he was all geared up. Should he keep playing a game when he&#039;s not having fun? Should he have to commit to his guild like to a long term relationship and not &#039;cheat&#039; with any other games whenever he gets a little antsy with WoW?

Don&#039;t hate the player, people.... hate the game.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Melf_Himselfs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://word-of-shadow.blogspot.com/2009/01/review-defense-grid.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Review: Defense Grid&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why the raid end-game mechanic is an example of poor game design. This guy very probably did not plan on bailing on the guild, he just decided it wasn&#8217;t fun anymore once he was all geared up. Should he keep playing a game when he&#8217;s not having fun? Should he have to commit to his guild like to a long term relationship and not &#8216;cheat&#8217; with any other games whenever he gets a little antsy with WoW?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hate the player, people&#8230;. hate the game.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Melf_Himselfs last blog post..<a href="http://word-of-shadow.blogspot.com/2009/01/review-defense-grid.html" rel="nofollow">Review: Defense Grid</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Map</title>
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		<dc:creator>Map</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This runs into a central division of types of raiders. 

You have people like Wayne who raid to get gear. 

You have others who gear to raid. 

He has made it clear what kind of raider he is. Is this the kind of person you want raiding with you? Is this the message you want to send to your other raiders? 

Seems simple enough a decision to me. In my guild he&#039;d never raid again with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This runs into a central division of types of raiders. </p>
<p>You have people like Wayne who raid to get gear. </p>
<p>You have others who gear to raid. </p>
<p>He has made it clear what kind of raider he is. Is this the kind of person you want raiding with you? Is this the message you want to send to your other raiders? </p>
<p>Seems simple enough a decision to me. In my guild he&#8217;d never raid again with us.</p>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing that could be an issue is that he doesn&#039;t get to raid when Ulduar comes out.  Sure, he&#039;s geared for it and has proven in the past that he is available, but since he bailed this time so easily, why wouldn&#039;t he a second (or third and on down the line)?  By him &quot;taking a break&quot; with his paladin from raiding, he has essentially gquit.  He will not be available for anything until Ulduar.  His coming back to raid full-time as soon as a new content patch is released is not fair to those who continue to raid or those who are recruited in the interim to fill the void he left.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;BJs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://professorbeej.blogspot.com/2009/01/dolla-dolla-bill-yall-or-how-i-realized.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dolla Dolla Bill Y&#039;all or How I Realized I Can Pay My Bills This Semester&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing that could be an issue is that he doesn&#8217;t get to raid when Ulduar comes out.  Sure, he&#8217;s geared for it and has proven in the past that he is available, but since he bailed this time so easily, why wouldn&#8217;t he a second (or third and on down the line)?  By him &#8220;taking a break&#8221; with his paladin from raiding, he has essentially gquit.  He will not be available for anything until Ulduar.  His coming back to raid full-time as soon as a new content patch is released is not fair to those who continue to raid or those who are recruited in the interim to fill the void he left.</p>
<p><abbr><em>BJs last blog post..<a href="http://professorbeej.blogspot.com/2009/01/dolla-dolla-bill-yall-or-how-i-realized.html" rel="nofollow">Dolla Dolla Bill Y&#8217;all or How I Realized I Can Pay My Bills This Semester</a></em></abbr></p>
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