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	<title>Comments on: Guest Post: A Micro Level Look at a Priest&#8217;s Trinket Usage</title>
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		<title>By: georgio</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/12/04/guest-post-a-micro-level-look-at-a-priests-trinket-usage/comment-page-1/#comment-17277</link>
		<dc:creator>georgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old news Majestic Dragon Figurine nerfed to oblivion in 3.0.8 No longer crits from any instant or channelled spells , nor from buffs. Useless now for druids and holy/shadow priests. There are now at least 5 better trinkets :(
  From now on please do not report the good priest trinkets or blizz will nerf them :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news Majestic Dragon Figurine nerfed to oblivion in 3.0.8 No longer crits from any instant or channelled spells , nor from buffs. Useless now for druids and holy/shadow priests. There are now at least 5 better trinkets <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
  From now on please do not report the good priest trinkets or blizz will nerf them <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lakland</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/12/04/guest-post-a-micro-level-look-at-a-priests-trinket-usage/comment-page-1/#comment-13447</link>
		<dc:creator>Lakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to use JIM&#039;s Cooldown Pulse for PvP.  Not sure if it is updated for 3.0/Wrath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to use JIM&#8217;s Cooldown Pulse for PvP.  Not sure if it is updated for 3.0/Wrath.</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/12/04/guest-post-a-micro-level-look-at-a-priests-trinket-usage/comment-page-1/#comment-13445</link>
		<dc:creator>Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh
I am still trying to get my mind wrapped around available healing mods 

(as can be read here http://hudshideout.com/blog/?p=1395) but now I still have trouble REMEMBERING to use trinkets. It is the thing I am the worst at. I need some mod that says: HEY DUMMY: USE THAT TRINKET!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hudsons last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://hudshideout.com/blog/?p=1395&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Healing mods: yay or nay?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh<br />
I am still trying to get my mind wrapped around available healing mods </p>
<p>(as can be read here <a href="http://hudshideout.com/blog/?p=1395)" rel="nofollow">http://hudshideout.com/blog/?p=1395)</a> but now I still have trouble REMEMBERING to use trinkets. It is the thing I am the worst at. I need some mod that says: HEY DUMMY: USE THAT TRINKET!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Hudsons last blog post..<a href="http://hudshideout.com/blog/?p=1395" rel="nofollow">Healing mods: yay or nay?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Lakland</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/12/04/guest-post-a-micro-level-look-at-a-priests-trinket-usage/comment-page-1/#comment-13441</link>
		<dc:creator>Lakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if WWS backs that up (Sfiend/Replenishment/etc. being a large portion of your regen).  Seems likely, but looking at the numbers is always fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if WWS backs that up (Sfiend/Replenishment/etc. being a large portion of your regen).  Seems likely, but looking at the numbers is always fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Calogero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calogero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for trinkets, I haven&#039;t found much better in forms of regen than these two.  I&#039;ve got a whole bunch of spirit gear, mainly because I haven&#039;t found much better in terms of Int.  Yes I agree that int is more important, because it gives you crit as well.  But using these two trinkets give me around 8k mana back when I need it, and it doesnt cost me a  mana pot or a shadowfiend cooldown.  When I replace most of my spirit gear w/ high intellect gear, I can see these trinkets getting replaced by spellpower trinkets and whatnot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for trinkets, I haven&#8217;t found much better in forms of regen than these two.  I&#8217;ve got a whole bunch of spirit gear, mainly because I haven&#8217;t found much better in terms of Int.  Yes I agree that int is more important, because it gives you crit as well.  But using these two trinkets give me around 8k mana back when I need it, and it doesnt cost me a  mana pot or a shadowfiend cooldown.  When I replace most of my spirit gear w/ high intellect gear, I can see these trinkets getting replaced by spellpower trinkets and whatnot.</p>
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		<title>By: Shyraia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shyraia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm..people keep going about spirit, but...to have the most effect of any of the mana regeneration effects in the game you want your max mana pool to be as big as possible. 

Hymn of Hope, Shadowfiends, and Replenishment are all based on a % of your max mana pool. So the larger this mana pool the larger the return of these effects. 

And not only that, in the mana regen formula, int has become more important as well since the weighing of spirit has been changed:

5 * 0.005575 * Spirit * Square_root ( Intellect )

So, while I do understand that holy priests are still completely of the wahoo for spirit (spirit of redemption combined with spiritual guidance makes for a nice spirit combo) why are disc priests still going completely bonkers for it?

Disc regen comes from casting with rapture, big mana pools and big spells. The more spellpower the more your shield absorbs, the more mana you get returned. And with enlightenment you should of course not neglect your spirit, but I&#039;m not sure why people are still this completely focused on it, even in disc spec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm..people keep going about spirit, but&#8230;to have the most effect of any of the mana regeneration effects in the game you want your max mana pool to be as big as possible. </p>
<p>Hymn of Hope, Shadowfiends, and Replenishment are all based on a % of your max mana pool. So the larger this mana pool the larger the return of these effects. </p>
<p>And not only that, in the mana regen formula, int has become more important as well since the weighing of spirit has been changed:</p>
<p>5 * 0.005575 * Spirit * Square_root ( Intellect )</p>
<p>So, while I do understand that holy priests are still completely of the wahoo for spirit (spirit of redemption combined with spiritual guidance makes for a nice spirit combo) why are disc priests still going completely bonkers for it?</p>
<p>Disc regen comes from casting with rapture, big mana pools and big spells. The more spellpower the more your shield absorbs, the more mana you get returned. And with enlightenment you should of course not neglect your spirit, but I&#8217;m not sure why people are still this completely focused on it, even in disc spec.</p>
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		<title>By: Calogero</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/12/04/guest-post-a-micro-level-look-at-a-priests-trinket-usage/comment-page-1/#comment-13432</link>
		<dc:creator>Calogero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prayer of mending will proc the trinket, and I heard that HC and SoL will too, buttt im disc spec so I only used definites (therefore I&#039;m not depending on PoM ticking while i&#039;m regenning) and I didnt count for SoL or HC because I dont have them :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prayer of mending will proc the trinket, and I heard that HC and SoL will too, buttt im disc spec so I only used definites (therefore I&#8217;m not depending on PoM ticking while i&#8217;m regenning) and I didnt count for SoL or HC because I dont have them <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, good post.  Managing cooldowns and regen is paramount to quality priest play.  I always like to see stuff on these topics.

Next, let us assume the spirit trinket is maxed(10 charges).  You get Holy Concentration proc - or Surge of light - could you do similar things there?  Incorporate Inner Focus, the glass, etc. - to max your O5SR regen?  I always led into my regen with the first proc I could use (Inner Focus on the first Holy Concentration proc combined with the earring use, so on and so forth.)  

It seems that trinketing as Healers follows the same DPS trinketing procedures.  Trinkets are also in my cooldowns classification - so I consider them exactly the same as my Inner Focus/ etc.  

1.) You get the most effect when you chain them all together at the same time.  Try to blow the glass with inner focus, the hymn, etc. chained together for sweetness regen.

2.) Try to blow cooldowns as early as possible when they aren&#039;t wasted.  This allows time for them to come back.  I don&#039;t condone necromancy - but this touches on a topic that Wyn covered way back in the day.  

http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/08/19/the-mana-efficient-priest/

I also wonder if the Heroism is a good time for priests to regen?  It&#039;s a big boost in HPS - so if you have a Paladin or two on staff not wasting alot of mana to begin with perhaps their HPS could cover you stepping out to regen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, good post.  Managing cooldowns and regen is paramount to quality priest play.  I always like to see stuff on these topics.</p>
<p>Next, let us assume the spirit trinket is maxed(10 charges).  You get Holy Concentration proc &#8211; or Surge of light &#8211; could you do similar things there?  Incorporate Inner Focus, the glass, etc. &#8211; to max your O5SR regen?  I always led into my regen with the first proc I could use (Inner Focus on the first Holy Concentration proc combined with the earring use, so on and so forth.)  </p>
<p>It seems that trinketing as Healers follows the same DPS trinketing procedures.  Trinkets are also in my cooldowns classification &#8211; so I consider them exactly the same as my Inner Focus/ etc.  </p>
<p>1.) You get the most effect when you chain them all together at the same time.  Try to blow the glass with inner focus, the hymn, etc. chained together for sweetness regen.</p>
<p>2.) Try to blow cooldowns as early as possible when they aren&#8217;t wasted.  This allows time for them to come back.  I don&#8217;t condone necromancy &#8211; but this touches on a topic that Wyn covered way back in the day.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/08/19/the-mana-efficient-priest/" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/08/19/the-mana-efficient-priest/</a></p>
<p>I also wonder if the Heroism is a good time for priests to regen?  It&#8217;s a big boost in HPS &#8211; so if you have a Paladin or two on staff not wasting alot of mana to begin with perhaps their HPS could cover you stepping out to regen.</p>
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