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	<title>Comments on: Post Raid Reflections, Anxiety, and Member &#8220;Poaching&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: The Delicate Art of Delegation : World of Matticus</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/25/post-raid-reflections-anxiety-and-member-poaching/comment-page-1/#comment-13153</link>
		<dc:creator>The Delicate Art of Delegation : World of Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] night, I wrote a heartfelt post detailing my trials and hardships in the captaining of Conquest. While I believe the crew is just as (if not more) important than the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/25/post-raid-reflections-anxiety-and-member-poaching/comment-page-1/#comment-13144</link>
		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Maeve: Funny. I had to fend off about 15 minutes worth of tells from a former healing colleague accusing me of &quot;stealing&quot;. If you want to spin the term &quot;recruiting&quot; in such a way, so be it. I&#039;m not here to debate what intent means. While I do want skilled players to join me, I would not approach former &quot;contracted&quot; colleagues on my own or whisper them or dangle anything like that. I said it in the post, and I&#039;ll say it again. That&#039;s not me. If you truly think I have that sort of influence, thank you. Heck, I told everyone who&#039;s approached me that this is an unproven organization and it could ultimately fail. Carnage&#039;s strongest point is that it&#039;s been around for many years. Conquest could cave at any time and I ask them to factor that into their thinking and think really hard about what it is that they want. 

As for what I discuss and post on my blog, that is entirely my own business. I do not need to confirm or discuss with other players who weren&#039;t involved about such heated conversations. I know what was said to me and I also know that it is not representative of the entire guild. There was no misunderstanding at all here. It was quite clear and quite crystal. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Maeve: Funny. I had to fend off about 15 minutes worth of tells from a former healing colleague accusing me of &#8220;stealing&#8221;. If you want to spin the term &#8220;recruiting&#8221; in such a way, so be it. I&#8217;m not here to debate what intent means. While I do want skilled players to join me, I would not approach former &#8220;contracted&#8221; colleagues on my own or whisper them or dangle anything like that. I said it in the post, and I&#8217;ll say it again. That&#8217;s not me. If you truly think I have that sort of influence, thank you. Heck, I told everyone who&#8217;s approached me that this is an unproven organization and it could ultimately fail. Carnage&#8217;s strongest point is that it&#8217;s been around for many years. Conquest could cave at any time and I ask them to factor that into their thinking and think really hard about what it is that they want. </p>
<p>As for what I discuss and post on my blog, that is entirely my own business. I do not need to confirm or discuss with other players who weren&#8217;t involved about such heated conversations. I know what was said to me and I also know that it is not representative of the entire guild. There was no misunderstanding at all here. It was quite clear and quite crystal. </p>
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		<title>By: Sydera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sydera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Maeve

Nice to see you&#039;re reading the blog. I&#039;ve got no clue about Carnage, but I can&#039;t help thinking that the best thing to do--for both Carnage and Conquest--is to bury the hatchet and move forward. There&#039;s enough prizes out there for everyone to get them, in their own personal style and preferred environment. 

That said, I think Matt&#039;s justified in saying whatever he&#039;d like on his own blog. That is why we blog--at least in part, it&#039;s about freedom of speech. Our readers are likewise free to read, or not read, or to respond, or not respond. And of course, a person&#039;s emotions are never wrong or inaccurate--emotion is subjective by nature. A blog, mind you, is one of those places to share that kind of thing. I assure you, in-game no one gets as much information about the World of Matticus bloggers&#039; thoughts and opinions as they would from reading the blog! Such is the nature of the medium we write in. It&#039;s a conversation with ourselves which we invite others to read. As such, it can&#039;t be taken as gospel either--it&#039;s more what the writer thinks about or wants to consider, not necessarily something they&#039;ll put into practice every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Maeve</p>
<p>Nice to see you&#8217;re reading the blog. I&#8217;ve got no clue about Carnage, but I can&#8217;t help thinking that the best thing to do&#8211;for both Carnage and Conquest&#8211;is to bury the hatchet and move forward. There&#8217;s enough prizes out there for everyone to get them, in their own personal style and preferred environment. </p>
<p>That said, I think Matt&#8217;s justified in saying whatever he&#8217;d like on his own blog. That is why we blog&#8211;at least in part, it&#8217;s about freedom of speech. Our readers are likewise free to read, or not read, or to respond, or not respond. And of course, a person&#8217;s emotions are never wrong or inaccurate&#8211;emotion is subjective by nature. A blog, mind you, is one of those places to share that kind of thing. I assure you, in-game no one gets as much information about the World of Matticus bloggers&#8217; thoughts and opinions as they would from reading the blog! Such is the nature of the medium we write in. It&#8217;s a conversation with ourselves which we invite others to read. As such, it can&#8217;t be taken as gospel either&#8211;it&#8217;s more what the writer thinks about or wants to consider, not necessarily something they&#8217;ll put into practice every time.</p>
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		<title>By: AltoholicsAreUs</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/25/post-raid-reflections-anxiety-and-member-poaching/comment-page-1/#comment-13142</link>
		<dc:creator>AltoholicsAreUs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience of guild/raid leading, I broke down some of the jobs. It was surely my job to research our fights, to know ahead of time what we were walking into and to provide my guildies with those same resources. Required reading we called it. We also had a comprehensive list of what pots you&#039;d want to consider bringing, where to find the mats, and who to take them to. You only have to write this stuff out once, post it, and remind them where it is when they need the info. That way, when it comes right down to it, a brief recap sets you on your way. Don&#039;t worry about marking every little thing. Bestow some confidence in your tanks and pass them the ability to mark. Just call out, CC that  mob, CC that mob, on you&#039;re go. The tank marks out your directions and pulls. Simple and done.

After a raid, I usually scheduled some guild PvP time. Nothing like beating on others to knock the stress out of ya. However, if you mean you want a real life sort of breather, I enjoy reading, writing, and crafting actually. A walk could be good for you too. Walk on down to your local ice cream shop or something. It&#039;s good stuff. Feel better, You&#039;re doing great!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;AltoholicsAreUss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://altoholicsareus.com/2008/11/25/my-first-poll/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My First Poll!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience of guild/raid leading, I broke down some of the jobs. It was surely my job to research our fights, to know ahead of time what we were walking into and to provide my guildies with those same resources. Required reading we called it. We also had a comprehensive list of what pots you&#8217;d want to consider bringing, where to find the mats, and who to take them to. You only have to write this stuff out once, post it, and remind them where it is when they need the info. That way, when it comes right down to it, a brief recap sets you on your way. Don&#8217;t worry about marking every little thing. Bestow some confidence in your tanks and pass them the ability to mark. Just call out, CC that  mob, CC that mob, on you&#8217;re go. The tank marks out your directions and pulls. Simple and done.</p>
<p>After a raid, I usually scheduled some guild PvP time. Nothing like beating on others to knock the stress out of ya. However, if you mean you want a real life sort of breather, I enjoy reading, writing, and crafting actually. A walk could be good for you too. Walk on down to your local ice cream shop or something. It&#8217;s good stuff. Feel better, You&#8217;re doing great!</p>
<p><abbr><em>AltoholicsAreUss last blog post..<a href="http://altoholicsareus.com/2008/11/25/my-first-poll/" rel="nofollow">My First Poll!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Imalinata</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/25/post-raid-reflections-anxiety-and-member-poaching/comment-page-1/#comment-13140</link>
		<dc:creator>Imalinata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really see swearing as such a bad thing....just don&#039;t key vent if you think you&#039;re doing it too much.  :)

As for the poaching allegation, have you considered catching your old GM and telling him/her what you put down here?  If nothing else, it would put the two of you on the same page, and if it&#039;s general members claiming you&#039;re poaching, probably put it in perspective for that GM.  

Our previous GM (just stepped down after 3 years) would play Dota after raids to relax.

Edit:  Clearly I need to stop being distracted when I am writing comments (or refresh the page) so that it doesn&#039;t look like I completely ignored the ones before mine.  : /</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really see swearing as such a bad thing&#8230;.just don&#8217;t key vent if you think you&#8217;re doing it too much.  <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for the poaching allegation, have you considered catching your old GM and telling him/her what you put down here?  If nothing else, it would put the two of you on the same page, and if it&#8217;s general members claiming you&#8217;re poaching, probably put it in perspective for that GM.  </p>
<p>Our previous GM (just stepped down after 3 years) would play Dota after raids to relax.</p>
<p>Edit:  Clearly I need to stop being distracted when I am writing comments (or refresh the page) so that it doesn&#8217;t look like I completely ignored the ones before mine.  : /</p>
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		<title>By: Maeve</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/25/post-raid-reflections-anxiety-and-member-poaching/comment-page-1/#comment-13139</link>
		<dc:creator>Maeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

As you well know, I don&#039;t usually reply to blogs or forums. However, since you specifically bring up Carnage and member &quot;poaching&quot;, which your readers are reading into, I feel obliged to post.

I play Maeve, the current GM of Carnage. As far as I know, no one in Carnage has accused you of &quot;poaching&quot; our members, and certainly not for the purpose of destabilizing the guild. We are aware that you&#039;re still in touch with our members, with whom you have your own individual relationships and we&#039;ve never discouraged them from continuing those relationships.

I am aware that at least one member is considering joining your guild, and as I told him last night when we were discussing it, &quot;ultimately it&#039;s your choice and your decision, I can&#039;t make it for you.&quot; I did ask him to consider the matter fully, given Carnage&#039;s members, officers, and its record of stability and consistency.

But let&#039;s be clear and honest about the situation here and as presented in your post. You *do* have intent and influence. The statements you make your goals for your guild are arguments to persuade people who agree with them to join you. That is influence. You want members, particularly people you know who are skilled players, to join you. This is motive, whether you want to quibble about it being conscious intention or not. As a GM, everything you say and do will be seen by most people through this perspective. In the case of the member who is thinking about joining you, you are recruiting him.

There is nothing wrong with this. As Kimbo says in his reply, this is the nature of guilds. Everyone has to decide what they want for themselves and if their guild provides it. This is especially true during an expansion.

It is wrong, however, is to blog about unattributed accusations about member poaching and attempted destabilization from your former guild without much investigation into whether such accusations were made. You could post about poaching generally without naming and implicitly defaming your former guild.

I have no doubt that harsh things have been said by Carnage members about Conquest. I&#039;m sure that former Carnage members in Conquest have similar things to say about Carnage and some of its members. But members do not decide policy and they don&#039;t carry the weight of a GM. If you have an issue with something a Carnage member says, you should bring it up with me, so I can deal with it appropriately. As you well know, there is a lot of context to things that are said, and a lot of misunderstanding that stems from miscommunication. For you to raise those things in a blog post without confirming them or discussing them with me is, in my opinion, inconsiderate and disrespectful.

If relations between Carnage and Conquest were so bad that Carnage is concerned about destabilization and member poaching, would we have allowed some of our members, including an officer who you invited personally to tank, to attend your raid last night? As it was, the lack of communication about the raid and those invitations put one of our members in a situation where he felt caught between his loyalties and bailed on one of our 10-man raids. Ultimately it was his decision, choice, and failure, but the situation was one that could easily have been avoided with more communication in-game and less reading about things after the fact on your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>As you well know, I don&#8217;t usually reply to blogs or forums. However, since you specifically bring up Carnage and member &#8220;poaching&#8221;, which your readers are reading into, I feel obliged to post.</p>
<p>I play Maeve, the current GM of Carnage. As far as I know, no one in Carnage has accused you of &#8220;poaching&#8221; our members, and certainly not for the purpose of destabilizing the guild. We are aware that you&#8217;re still in touch with our members, with whom you have your own individual relationships and we&#8217;ve never discouraged them from continuing those relationships.</p>
<p>I am aware that at least one member is considering joining your guild, and as I told him last night when we were discussing it, &#8220;ultimately it&#8217;s your choice and your decision, I can&#8217;t make it for you.&#8221; I did ask him to consider the matter fully, given Carnage&#8217;s members, officers, and its record of stability and consistency.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s be clear and honest about the situation here and as presented in your post. You *do* have intent and influence. The statements you make your goals for your guild are arguments to persuade people who agree with them to join you. That is influence. You want members, particularly people you know who are skilled players, to join you. This is motive, whether you want to quibble about it being conscious intention or not. As a GM, everything you say and do will be seen by most people through this perspective. In the case of the member who is thinking about joining you, you are recruiting him.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with this. As Kimbo says in his reply, this is the nature of guilds. Everyone has to decide what they want for themselves and if their guild provides it. This is especially true during an expansion.</p>
<p>It is wrong, however, is to blog about unattributed accusations about member poaching and attempted destabilization from your former guild without much investigation into whether such accusations were made. You could post about poaching generally without naming and implicitly defaming your former guild.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that harsh things have been said by Carnage members about Conquest. I&#8217;m sure that former Carnage members in Conquest have similar things to say about Carnage and some of its members. But members do not decide policy and they don&#8217;t carry the weight of a GM. If you have an issue with something a Carnage member says, you should bring it up with me, so I can deal with it appropriately. As you well know, there is a lot of context to things that are said, and a lot of misunderstanding that stems from miscommunication. For you to raise those things in a blog post without confirming them or discussing them with me is, in my opinion, inconsiderate and disrespectful.</p>
<p>If relations between Carnage and Conquest were so bad that Carnage is concerned about destabilization and member poaching, would we have allowed some of our members, including an officer who you invited personally to tank, to attend your raid last night? As it was, the lack of communication about the raid and those invitations put one of our members in a situation where he felt caught between his loyalties and bailed on one of our 10-man raids. Ultimately it was his decision, choice, and failure, but the situation was one that could easily have been avoided with more communication in-game and less reading about things after the fact on your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Matticus</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/25/post-raid-reflections-anxiety-and-member-poaching/comment-page-1/#comment-13138</link>
		<dc:creator>Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pookie: Oh don&#039;t worry. I have a healing lead in mine. THe reason I had to handle it is because she hasn&#039;t quite reached 80 yet. *withering glare*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pookie: Oh don&#8217;t worry. I have a healing lead in mine. THe reason I had to handle it is because she hasn&#8217;t quite reached 80 yet. *withering glare*</p>
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		<title>By: Pookie</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/25/post-raid-reflections-anxiety-and-member-poaching/comment-page-1/#comment-13137</link>
		<dc:creator>Pookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt take it like this...obviously you are doing a dang good job. Guilds only worry about poaching if they know their guild isn&#039;t happy and there is something better out there. They get paranoid and nervous always looking at their members to see if they are &#039;disloyal&#039;. Instead of going &#039;what should we be doing better as a guild&#039;.

Obviously you are rocking it out and take heart in it! People are reading your posts about the guild and responding, always a great sign you have it right. You are listening to feedback, and from a raider always a heartening sign from a raid/guild leader. 

But Joveta is right about deligating. If you are going to be raid leader hand off heal lead to a trusted healer. The more comfortable your guild becomes with eachother and their skill in Wraith the easier your job will become. Once they gel together as a raiding unit some of what you micromanage now will take care of itself. 

Give yourself a pat on the back, if you have trouble unwinding then find something that will help you step down from the high that is raiding. That burst of adrenaline you get during the raid needs to be worked out. If you are looking for something in game perhaps 5mans which were mentioned before or an alt to work on would help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt take it like this&#8230;obviously you are doing a dang good job. Guilds only worry about poaching if they know their guild isn&#8217;t happy and there is something better out there. They get paranoid and nervous always looking at their members to see if they are &#8216;disloyal&#8217;. Instead of going &#8216;what should we be doing better as a guild&#8217;.</p>
<p>Obviously you are rocking it out and take heart in it! People are reading your posts about the guild and responding, always a great sign you have it right. You are listening to feedback, and from a raider always a heartening sign from a raid/guild leader. </p>
<p>But Joveta is right about deligating. If you are going to be raid leader hand off heal lead to a trusted healer. The more comfortable your guild becomes with eachother and their skill in Wraith the easier your job will become. Once they gel together as a raiding unit some of what you micromanage now will take care of itself. </p>
<p>Give yourself a pat on the back, if you have trouble unwinding then find something that will help you step down from the high that is raiding. That burst of adrenaline you get during the raid needs to be worked out. If you are looking for something in game perhaps 5mans which were mentioned before or an alt to work on would help?</p>
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		<title>By: IcE_IcE_N00b</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/25/post-raid-reflections-anxiety-and-member-poaching/comment-page-1/#comment-13136</link>
		<dc:creator>IcE_IcE_N00b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got yo back Matt. I can honestly say you have a great support group and delegating will help you ease the pressure so you will not be like this every night. Keep that in mind. Syd will be the healing lead and hands out healing assignments. Doc is the disciplinarian, MA, and 2nd Raid Lead. You have at least 2 experienced tanks that are extremely intelligent. Believe in them like they believe in you; we will destroy every raid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got yo back Matt. I can honestly say you have a great support group and delegating will help you ease the pressure so you will not be like this every night. Keep that in mind. Syd will be the healing lead and hands out healing assignments. Doc is the disciplinarian, MA, and 2nd Raid Lead. You have at least 2 experienced tanks that are extremely intelligent. Believe in them like they believe in you; we will destroy every raid.</p>
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		<title>By: Llanion</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/25/post-raid-reflections-anxiety-and-member-poaching/comment-page-1/#comment-13133</link>
		<dc:creator>Llanion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, raid leading, the most excellently awesome headache you&#039;ll ever give yourself.

I&#039;ve found two points key to keeping my sanity while raid-leading. 

First, have some way of forcing a mental &#039;blink&#039;. I keep a drink handy, and nothing you can drink too fast. I find a Bloody Shame (tomato juice, worcestershire sauce, lemon juice and a generous helping of hot sauce) perfect for this- it&#039;s spicy enough to snap my all-devouring focus on the screen between wipes, trash pulls, and boss kills. That in turn allows my mental processes a sort of &#039;reset&#039;, if you will.

Second, have some way to unwind later. I used to just throw myself into the battlegrounds queues, but of late months those have become cesspits. For a while I&#039;d fly around Nagrand harvesting motes with my mote extractor. Fishing works as well. Running a five-man with guildies is fun if I&#039;m not leading. Lake Wintergrasp combat is glorious if it&#039;s open. Soloing an older instance. If none of those things seems to appeal, I&#039;ll do pushups.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Llanions last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://frostmage.net/index.php/ten-things-wintergrasp/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ten Things: Wintergrasp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, raid leading, the most excellently awesome headache you&#8217;ll ever give yourself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found two points key to keeping my sanity while raid-leading. </p>
<p>First, have some way of forcing a mental &#8216;blink&#8217;. I keep a drink handy, and nothing you can drink too fast. I find a Bloody Shame (tomato juice, worcestershire sauce, lemon juice and a generous helping of hot sauce) perfect for this- it&#8217;s spicy enough to snap my all-devouring focus on the screen between wipes, trash pulls, and boss kills. That in turn allows my mental processes a sort of &#8216;reset&#8217;, if you will.</p>
<p>Second, have some way to unwind later. I used to just throw myself into the battlegrounds queues, but of late months those have become cesspits. For a while I&#8217;d fly around Nagrand harvesting motes with my mote extractor. Fishing works as well. Running a five-man with guildies is fun if I&#8217;m not leading. Lake Wintergrasp combat is glorious if it&#8217;s open. Soloing an older instance. If none of those things seems to appeal, I&#8217;ll do pushups.</p>
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