Comments on: The Reality of Healing Heroics and Tips for Holy Priests http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/ Where healers come first Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:49:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Beamish http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-13738 Beamish Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:27:14 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-13738 Wow. Seems like every time I am lost in WoW Matticus shows me the way. I was talking to Guildies about exactly the issues I was having healing. You really nailed every issue I was having trouble with. Can't wait to steal your current Build. Your Level 70 gearing guide was the reason I progressed so ssmoothly into BC now you are helping me in WoTLK. Thanks alwys nice to know I am not a complete newb. See ya soon and thanks again Wow. Seems like every time I am lost in WoW Matticus shows me the way. I was talking to Guildies about exactly the issues I was having healing. You really nailed every issue I was having trouble with. Can’t wait to steal your current Build. Your Level 70 gearing guide was the reason I progressed so ssmoothly into BC now you are helping me in WoTLK. Thanks alwys nice to know I am not a complete newb. See ya soon and thanks again

]]> By: wowgirl http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-13081 wowgirl Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:03:34 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-13081 I'm still 79, trying to level and reach heroics asap =D <abbr><em>wowgirls last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/wowgirl/~3/461284780/" rel="nofollow">Desbravando novas instâncias!</a></abbr></em> I’m still 79, trying to level and reach heroics asap =D

wowgirls last blog post..Desbravando novas instâncias!

]]> By: Shyraia http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-13024 Shyraia Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:27:17 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-13024 For stat requirements on disc there's a discussion on plusheal, here: http://www.plusheal.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716 And, the EJ forums are updating the healing compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t35208-wotlk_healing_compendium_v3_0_progress/ Not sure if I'll now be shot because of linking other places though :P (and duh, I was looking for a preview button for the comment, but apparently there isn't one) We'll be getting our guildruns set up soon, can't wait ^_^ For stat requirements on disc there’s a discussion on plusheal, here: http://www.plusheal.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=716

And, the EJ forums are updating the healing compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t35208-wotlk_healing_compendium_v3_0_progress/

Not sure if I’ll now be shot because of linking other places though :P

(and duh, I was looking for a preview button for the comment, but apparently there isn’t one)

We’ll be getting our guildruns set up soon, can’t wait ^_^

]]> By: Karyss http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-13023 Karyss Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:54:03 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-13023 For Disc priests: has anyone fooled around with the Holy Nova Glyph? early reports have it at near PoH levels of healing/efficiency. Would that be your goto answer in aoe heal situations.? Food for thought. For Disc priests: has anyone fooled around with the Holy Nova Glyph? early reports have it at near PoH levels of healing/efficiency. Would that be your goto answer in aoe heal situations.?

Food for thought.

]]> By: Thorinar http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-13022 Thorinar Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:23:24 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-13022 At the gear level we're at I'm also suprised at how relatively easy the instances are... they really dont require tons of CC. Sure there are wipes from just being new to the places and getting a feel for the damage, but thats just part of the learning curve. I rushed to 80 so I never did the regular versions of the instances i'm doing on heroic... but I have to say, gauging on the difficulty of the heroics the others must be a breeze. Oh, im crit immune now so stop the qq! At the gear level we’re at I’m also suprised at how relatively easy the instances are… they really dont require tons of CC. Sure there are wipes from just being new to the places and getting a feel for the damage, but thats just part of the learning curve.

I rushed to 80 so I never did the regular versions of the instances i’m doing on heroic… but I have to say, gauging on the difficulty of the heroics the others must be a breeze.

Oh, im crit immune now so stop the qq!

]]> By: Elthan http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-13017 Elthan Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:57:15 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-13017 I've found heroics much easier than I'd expected. There is much more group damage than in TBC, but I've specc'd holy, and cheap, powerful PoM procc'ing SoL really is a life saver. Can't stress enough how amazing that synergy is. I’ve found heroics much easier than I’d expected. There is much more group damage than in TBC, but I’ve specc’d holy, and cheap, powerful PoM procc’ing SoL really is a life saver. Can’t stress enough how amazing that synergy is.

]]> By: Inflam http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-12994 Inflam Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:25:03 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-12994 Matticus, what spec and stats did you run these heroics from? Also, I'm finding the Blue quest items along the way to have less spell power, per item level, but significantly more Intel and Spirit. I wonder if that is a good trade off or not. Matticus, what spec and stats did you run these heroics from? Also, I’m finding the Blue quest items along the way to have less spell power, per item level, but significantly more Intel and Spirit. I wonder if that is a good trade off or not.

]]> By: BobTurkey http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-12978 BobTurkey Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:47:33 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-12978 Matticus this is the same as TBC. i.e. when I started on Heroics with normal (not over powered) gear recently, I was using about 50-80% of my mana pool each pull. I had the same reaction... better bring more drinks! Nice, neat little post, BTW. Gobble gobble. <abbr><em>BobTurkeys last blog post..<a href="http://bobturkey.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/instance-drops/" rel="nofollow">Instance drops</a></abbr></em> Matticus this is the same as TBC. i.e. when I started on Heroics with normal (not over powered) gear recently, I was using about 50-80% of my mana pool each pull. I had the same reaction… better bring more drinks!

Nice, neat little post, BTW.

Gobble gobble.

BobTurkeys last blog post..Instance drops

]]> By: BobTurkey http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-12976 BobTurkey Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:57:58 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-12976 @Valio - I'm healed TBC heroics as Disc and did fine. At the start you spend a lot of time praying for the Penance CD to finsh, but once you get the hang of it its fine. The issue I did have healing heroics as Disc was AoE damage. You have to work a lot harder when there is AoE damag compared to Holy throwing Circle of Healing. A good group with the the tank taking the damage is pretty easy and Disc probably even surpasses Holy when tank healing. @Valio – I’m healed TBC heroics as Disc and did fine. At the start you spend a lot of time praying for the Penance CD to finsh, but once you get the hang of it its fine. The issue I did have healing heroics as Disc was AoE damage. You have to work a lot harder when there is AoE damag compared to Holy throwing Circle of Healing.

A good group with the the tank taking the damage is pretty easy and Disc probably even surpasses Holy when tank healing.

]]> By: Gordo http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/18/the-reality-of-healing-heroics-and-tips-for-holy-priests/comment-page-1/#comment-12968 Gordo Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:06:16 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/?p=2800#comment-12968 Still going to say Disc is going to be the better PvE healer overall. The defining issue in heroics are staying alive and mana conservation and the Disc priest will own both. With PS and Grace we get a watered down version of SpiGuard with many more benefits. We also get Penance, which is game changing. I haven’t been so amazed with a spell since early PrOM (with no CD). For half the cost of Gheal I get an instant 1500 – 2500 on the target, with 2 more ticks of the same. I have low haste rating and still get more total healing in a shorter amount of time, with no cast time possibility of tank death. There are definitely some Heroics that have me fearful. The Old Kingdom for example, is an instance that I already think would be a hard for a shammie, and abusive to a pallie healer. In heroic, many of those elemental mobs will be nasty, only one boss will not be squashing the healer. Good post though. We defintely are using our 'fiend more along with Hymn. For many new healers they will need to acquire the old skills of FSR dancing. As well keep in mind the strength of INT over SPI in regards to group mana regen, when making your decisions. Still going to say Disc is going to be the better PvE healer overall.

The defining issue in heroics are staying alive and mana conservation and the Disc priest will own both. With PS and Grace we get a watered down version of SpiGuard with many more benefits.

We also get Penance, which is game changing. I haven’t been so amazed with a spell since early PrOM (with no CD). For half the cost of Gheal I get an instant 1500 – 2500 on the target, with 2 more ticks of the same. I have low haste rating and still get more total healing in a shorter amount of time, with no cast time possibility of tank death.

There are definitely some Heroics that have me fearful. The Old Kingdom for example, is an instance that I already think would be a hard for a shammie, and abusive to a pallie healer. In heroic, many of those elemental mobs will be nasty, only one boss will not be squashing the healer.

Good post though. We defintely are using our ‘fiend more along with Hymn. For many new healers they will need to acquire the old skills of FSR dancing. As well keep in mind the strength of INT over SPI in regards to group mana regen, when making your decisions.

]]>