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		<title>By: Alzenoth</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/13/qa-how-do-i-break-into-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-13358</link>
		<dc:creator>Alzenoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biggest bit of advice I can give to any healer looking to raid is to find yourself a pet tank. Once you got one that you are comfortable healing, and you can compensate for eachothers flaws then pugging gets insanely easier. 

Raiding guilds will look at armory and your gear and spec can tell a lot. Where you&#039;ve been, how well you know your class, how broke you are, etc. Always log out in your best gear, always!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biggest bit of advice I can give to any healer looking to raid is to find yourself a pet tank. Once you got one that you are comfortable healing, and you can compensate for eachothers flaws then pugging gets insanely easier. </p>
<p>Raiding guilds will look at armory and your gear and spec can tell a lot. Where you&#8217;ve been, how well you know your class, how broke you are, etc. Always log out in your best gear, always!</p>
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		<title>By: drug</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/13/qa-how-do-i-break-into-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-13004</link>
		<dc:creator>drug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started raiding only when my guild was already working on SSC so rather late. My top 5 for starting your raiding journey:

1. As pointed out before: PuG! It helped me become a better healer, learn my healing tools, get to know tanks and deal with damagedealers taking damage.

2. Don&#039;t be afraid to apply early/while leveling. I applied to a Guild while around 65 which already had 25 man raids in Gruul up and running. It helped me get a raidspot already knowing my guildies when hitting 70. WotLK has formed many new guilds looking for members, take your chance!

3. Write a well thought out application. Keep it short but answer everything asked in the application form. Be honest, check your grammar and slip some personal notes into the app. Offer a talk over vent/teamspeak for additional questions.

4. Think about teaming up for an app. I did so with my girlfriend, do so as well or apply with a good friend. It helps you starting out the daily guild life and many guilds welcome apps of 2-3 people (not-so much high-end guilds).

5. If you get into a guild an there&#039;s nothing going terribly wrong: try to stick to a guild. Help build up the raid rather than hop to the next guild and progression level. Especially as a shaman there were times nearly every sunwell guild would have taken me even with the crappiest gear. But even if i haven&#039;t seen sunwell pre 3.0.2 i did enjoy my guild and becoming an officer. CAVE: Do know when it&#039;s time to move on if you&#039;re guild just can&#039;t meet your needs but do leave with respect and kind words.

(6. Be prepared. There WILL be guild drama.)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;drugs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shieldsup.ch/2008/11/20/addons-the-overview/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Addons: The Overview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started raiding only when my guild was already working on SSC so rather late. My top 5 for starting your raiding journey:</p>
<p>1. As pointed out before: PuG! It helped me become a better healer, learn my healing tools, get to know tanks and deal with damagedealers taking damage.</p>
<p>2. Don&#8217;t be afraid to apply early/while leveling. I applied to a Guild while around 65 which already had 25 man raids in Gruul up and running. It helped me get a raidspot already knowing my guildies when hitting 70. WotLK has formed many new guilds looking for members, take your chance!</p>
<p>3. Write a well thought out application. Keep it short but answer everything asked in the application form. Be honest, check your grammar and slip some personal notes into the app. Offer a talk over vent/teamspeak for additional questions.</p>
<p>4. Think about teaming up for an app. I did so with my girlfriend, do so as well or apply with a good friend. It helps you starting out the daily guild life and many guilds welcome apps of 2-3 people (not-so much high-end guilds).</p>
<p>5. If you get into a guild an there&#8217;s nothing going terribly wrong: try to stick to a guild. Help build up the raid rather than hop to the next guild and progression level. Especially as a shaman there were times nearly every sunwell guild would have taken me even with the crappiest gear. But even if i haven&#8217;t seen sunwell pre 3.0.2 i did enjoy my guild and becoming an officer. CAVE: Do know when it&#8217;s time to move on if you&#8217;re guild just can&#8217;t meet your needs but do leave with respect and kind words.</p>
<p>(6. Be prepared. There WILL be guild drama.)</p>
<p><abbr><em>drugs last blog post..<a href="http://www.shieldsup.ch/2008/11/20/addons-the-overview/" rel="nofollow">Addons: The Overview</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Copra</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/13/qa-how-do-i-break-into-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-13001</link>
		<dc:creator>Copra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What it all boils down to is to have fun the way you want it. I&#039;m having my doubts about the way I&#039;m going: part of me wants to rush to the top and start raiding, while the other part wants to see the content to the fullest. Maybe I just roll two toons and do them both at the same time...

Thanks Sydera for all the advice and insight to the dilemma!

Copra

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Copras last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://bullcopra.blogspot.com/2008/11/incoming-plans-for-guild.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Incoming: plans for a Guild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What it all boils down to is to have fun the way you want it. I&#8217;m having my doubts about the way I&#8217;m going: part of me wants to rush to the top and start raiding, while the other part wants to see the content to the fullest. Maybe I just roll two toons and do them both at the same time&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks Sydera for all the advice and insight to the dilemma!</p>
<p>Copra</p>
<p><abbr><em>Copras last blog post..<a href="http://bullcopra.blogspot.com/2008/11/incoming-plans-for-guild.html" rel="nofollow">Incoming: plans for a Guild</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Ravageclaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravageclaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Syd, you bring a good point. It all depends on the persons experience. If they haven&#039;t experienced instances, they should start soon. If they happen to be reaching Northrend now, it will be a great learning experience because it&#039;s very likely they&#039;ll stumble with a healer in DPS spec, or reroll.

Also it&#039;s important that they shouldn&#039;t hold their leveling waiting for an instance run. It&#039;s good to find a group, but it&#039;s not worth holding back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Syd, you bring a good point. It all depends on the persons experience. If they haven&#8217;t experienced instances, they should start soon. If they happen to be reaching Northrend now, it will be a great learning experience because it&#8217;s very likely they&#8217;ll stumble with a healer in DPS spec, or reroll.</p>
<p>Also it&#8217;s important that they shouldn&#8217;t hold their leveling waiting for an instance run. It&#8217;s good to find a group, but it&#8217;s not worth holding back.</p>
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		<title>By: Sydera</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/13/qa-how-do-i-break-into-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-12989</link>
		<dc:creator>Sydera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For both Copra and Ravageclaw, it&#039;s my opinion that a person with good gaming skills can learn to heal/dps/tank, at max level, with all abilities available. This matches up pretty well to my own experience switching roles as well as that of friends and guildmates.

Learning to heal with two spells has questionable value. I leveled moonkin and I learned to heal once I had the whole toolkit, at 70. It just takes looking up what to do, memorizing the theory, and then applying it. 

In any case, for me the game starts at max level. That&#039;s just the sort of player I am. Everything that comes before is easier, and thus, not worth a lot of sacrifices if you miss something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For both Copra and Ravageclaw, it&#8217;s my opinion that a person with good gaming skills can learn to heal/dps/tank, at max level, with all abilities available. This matches up pretty well to my own experience switching roles as well as that of friends and guildmates.</p>
<p>Learning to heal with two spells has questionable value. I leveled moonkin and I learned to heal once I had the whole toolkit, at 70. It just takes looking up what to do, memorizing the theory, and then applying it. </p>
<p>In any case, for me the game starts at max level. That&#8217;s just the sort of player I am. Everything that comes before is easier, and thus, not worth a lot of sacrifices if you miss something.</p>
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		<title>By: Copra</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/13/qa-how-do-i-break-into-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-12982</link>
		<dc:creator>Copra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ravageclaw: that was actually one of my points when I asked about this. Blizzard had at the beginning a cleverly conceived tutorial to raiding, which was called levelling and instances. Now that is broken because the levelling has been made so fast and easy that no-one really bothers to run the lower level instances, especially the harder ones which would teach you something.

I don&#039;t see PUGging as a solution, but it seems to be the only way to get there with the power levelling.

My solution is to visit all instances, even though it takes a bit more time. I&#039;m playing for fun, not having fun for playing.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Copras last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://bullcopra.blogspot.com/2008/11/incoming-plans-for-guild.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Incoming: plans for a Guild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ravageclaw: that was actually one of my points when I asked about this. Blizzard had at the beginning a cleverly conceived tutorial to raiding, which was called levelling and instances. Now that is broken because the levelling has been made so fast and easy that no-one really bothers to run the lower level instances, especially the harder ones which would teach you something.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see PUGging as a solution, but it seems to be the only way to get there with the power levelling.</p>
<p>My solution is to visit all instances, even though it takes a bit more time. I&#8217;m playing for fun, not having fun for playing.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Copras last blog post..<a href="http://bullcopra.blogspot.com/2008/11/incoming-plans-for-guild.html" rel="nofollow">Incoming: plans for a Guild</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Ravageclaw</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/13/qa-how-do-i-break-into-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-12971</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravageclaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For healers (and to a same degree tanks and CCs), they shouldn&#039;t skip on doing instances appropriated to their level. If you start healing in RFC, you only have Renew and Lesser Heal to deal, and every few levels you can add a new healing spell to your rotation. If your first instance is The Nexus, you have over 9 healing spells to use, without counting other important spells that you have to weave in between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For healers (and to a same degree tanks and CCs), they shouldn&#8217;t skip on doing instances appropriated to their level. If you start healing in RFC, you only have Renew and Lesser Heal to deal, and every few levels you can add a new healing spell to your rotation. If your first instance is The Nexus, you have over 9 healing spells to use, without counting other important spells that you have to weave in between.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bear Butt Blogger Ã‚Â» We are SO not a raiding guild</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/13/qa-how-do-i-break-into-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-12912</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bear Butt Blogger Ã‚Â» We are SO not a raiding guild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was reading Matticus the other day, and a post by Sydera caught my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sydera</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/13/qa-how-do-i-break-into-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-12903</link>
		<dc:creator>Sydera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ainaste: 

I have to say I agree. I pugged a lot on my way to 60 especially, because I was in a casual guild and that&#039;s what there was to do in Vanilla WoW, and there are certain lessons about playing in a group that even transfer between characters. However,  I think it will be hard for people to get pugs below 70, so I don&#039;t suggest it in the current climate.

I think that &quot;run-throughs&quot; of old dungeons, where a high level takes a low level through, don&#039;t pay off at all in terms of the low level learning his or her class. That&#039;s mostly what&#039;s available for old dungeons, and you have to call in serious favors to get your guildies to do that.

However, at 70+, people are going to be excited to run the new stuff. I have every confidence that a new player could learn his class by pugging one or another of the Wrath dungeons every day for three months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ainaste: </p>
<p>I have to say I agree. I pugged a lot on my way to 60 especially, because I was in a casual guild and that&#8217;s what there was to do in Vanilla WoW, and there are certain lessons about playing in a group that even transfer between characters. However,  I think it will be hard for people to get pugs below 70, so I don&#8217;t suggest it in the current climate.</p>
<p>I think that &#8220;run-throughs&#8221; of old dungeons, where a high level takes a low level through, don&#8217;t pay off at all in terms of the low level learning his or her class. That&#8217;s mostly what&#8217;s available for old dungeons, and you have to call in serious favors to get your guildies to do that.</p>
<p>However, at 70+, people are going to be excited to run the new stuff. I have every confidence that a new player could learn his class by pugging one or another of the Wrath dungeons every day for three months.</p>
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		<title>By: Ainaste</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/11/13/qa-how-do-i-break-into-raiding/comment-page-1/#comment-12902</link>
		<dc:creator>Ainaste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great guide and tips. 

True story -- I started this April, hit 70 late May, and was raiding Karazhan by June... and jumped to Hyjal/Black Temple in August. 

Personal willpower and the ability to learn quickly will get you where you want.

As I see several others have commented, I&#039;ve got a thing or two to say about pugging. I definitely agree it&#039;s the best pre-raid &#039;training grounds,&#039; but I&#039;d suggest pugging very early. By early, I mean in your 20&#039;s (SFK, BFD etc) or even RFC in your early teen&#039;s. Especially because I was going through the levelling process with my very first character (2 failed Rogues that I quit at levels 8 and 16 nonwithstanding) that gave me the chance to experience old-world content as I went. I never farmed any instances and simply did one or two depending on my level and what quests I had. It might not have been as fast as straight solo questing, but I began picking up group etiquette and the role expectations of a non-tarded Hunter early on and continued to hone them as I levelled. By the time I hit 70 I had lots of experience, and despite the &quot;huntard&quot; stereotype and having no references I quickly was accepted into a T4 guild. I was raiding 3 days after I hit 70. 

I still lacked some rather key knowledge at that time -- namely the importance/available selection of gems and enchants and raiding addon &quot;musts,&quot; but guildies quickly filled me in on that.

After I had my own credentials and skills down pat the rest of my guild/Tier ascension was purely a matter of friends. I met the friends of friends, or people I got along with in daily heroic PuGs. When I ran into drama issues with my first T4 guild, I had better places to go.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ainastes last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://rangedps.blogspot.com/2008/11/better-than-you.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Better than You&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great guide and tips. </p>
<p>True story &#8212; I started this April, hit 70 late May, and was raiding Karazhan by June&#8230; and jumped to Hyjal/Black Temple in August. </p>
<p>Personal willpower and the ability to learn quickly will get you where you want.</p>
<p>As I see several others have commented, I&#8217;ve got a thing or two to say about pugging. I definitely agree it&#8217;s the best pre-raid &#8216;training grounds,&#8217; but I&#8217;d suggest pugging very early. By early, I mean in your 20&#8217;s (SFK, BFD etc) or even RFC in your early teen&#8217;s. Especially because I was going through the levelling process with my very first character (2 failed Rogues that I quit at levels 8 and 16 nonwithstanding) that gave me the chance to experience old-world content as I went. I never farmed any instances and simply did one or two depending on my level and what quests I had. It might not have been as fast as straight solo questing, but I began picking up group etiquette and the role expectations of a non-tarded Hunter early on and continued to hone them as I levelled. By the time I hit 70 I had lots of experience, and despite the &#8220;huntard&#8221; stereotype and having no references I quickly was accepted into a T4 guild. I was raiding 3 days after I hit 70. </p>
<p>I still lacked some rather key knowledge at that time &#8212; namely the importance/available selection of gems and enchants and raiding addon &#8220;musts,&#8221; but guildies quickly filled me in on that.</p>
<p>After I had my own credentials and skills down pat the rest of my guild/Tier ascension was purely a matter of friends. I met the friends of friends, or people I got along with in daily heroic PuGs. When I ran into drama issues with my first T4 guild, I had better places to go.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ainastes last blog post..<a href="http://rangedps.blogspot.com/2008/11/better-than-you.html" rel="nofollow">Better than You</a></em></abbr></p>
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