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		<title>By: Slink</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/08/13/primal-mooncloth-do-you-need-to-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-11378</link>
		<dc:creator>Slink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well this is all well and good and I will agree with you that its enough for me...BUT...when I get unceremoniously booted from a pug because I don&#039;t have enough health to suit them....it gets to me...same with mana...I am very very efficent...rarely ever ever go oom....yet I have been told I have to have more mana...now this is not everyone don&#039;t get me wrong....but it does get annoying when you see &quot;removed from group&#039; before the run even starts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well this is all well and good and I will agree with you that its enough for me&#8230;BUT&#8230;when I get unceremoniously booted from a pug because I don&#8217;t have enough health to suit them&#8230;.it gets to me&#8230;same with mana&#8230;I am very very efficent&#8230;rarely ever ever go oom&#8230;.yet I have been told I have to have more mana&#8230;now this is not everyone don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8230;.but it does get annoying when you see &#8220;removed from group&#8217; before the run even starts</p>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXCELLENT POST, WYN!!! There is NOTHING wrong with PMC, all the way up through T5. Sure, if you can get better, then that&#039;s great. For instance, I&#039;ve broken my PMC set with my T4 shoulders.

In my particular case, my Mp5 is fine, my mana regen is never a problem, and I only go OOM when a lot of other things are going wrong.

Am I in a hurry to complete the swap-out from PMC? Not at all! Do I need more stam? Yep, no question: I think 8K health unbuffed is a reasonable expectation for TK, but you know what? I&#039;m doing just fine in there with my paltry 7.5K. 

Did I mention PoH &amp; Binding Heal are my #4 &amp; #5 spells by number of casts? Because I DO make sure that after my tank(s), I&#039;m #1 on my target list.

Once again, wonderful post, Wyn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXCELLENT POST, WYN!!! There is NOTHING wrong with PMC, all the way up through T5. Sure, if you can get better, then that&#8217;s great. For instance, I&#8217;ve broken my PMC set with my T4 shoulders.</p>
<p>In my particular case, my Mp5 is fine, my mana regen is never a problem, and I only go OOM when a lot of other things are going wrong.</p>
<p>Am I in a hurry to complete the swap-out from PMC? Not at all! Do I need more stam? Yep, no question: I think 8K health unbuffed is a reasonable expectation for TK, but you know what? I&#8217;m doing just fine in there with my paltry 7.5K. </p>
<p>Did I mention PoH &amp; Binding Heal are my #4 &amp; #5 spells by number of casts? Because I DO make sure that after my tank(s), I&#8217;m #1 on my target list.</p>
<p>Once again, wonderful post, Wyn.</p>
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		<title>By: Desmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, excellent post Wyn. It&#039;s about time this issue was addressed, good call!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, excellent post Wyn. It&#8217;s about time this issue was addressed, good call!</p>
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		<title>By: End of Raiding Week &#171; Endless Gaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>End of Raiding Week &#171; Endless Gaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Belt of the Long Road. Since I&#8217;m already planing on braking the PMC Set. Thanks to Cynra and Wynthea for the bit of an incite on that &lt;3 ya [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Belt of the Long Road. Since I&#8217;m already planing on braking the PMC Set. Thanks to Cynra and Wynthea for the bit of an incite on that &lt;3 ya [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tankette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tankette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. My alt is exactly what you describe. I wear the 3 PMC pieces, have low stamina, die too much and dream of having better gear come to my rescue. Truth is I have a hard time seeing what is going on in the raid because of tunnel vision on my Healbot mod.

Tankettes last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tankette.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/another-evenfull-night-nice-maiden-drop-and-guild-matters/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another evenfull night, Nice Maiden drop and guild matters&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. My alt is exactly what you describe. I wear the 3 PMC pieces, have low stamina, die too much and dream of having better gear come to my rescue. Truth is I have a hard time seeing what is going on in the raid because of tunnel vision on my Healbot mod.</p>
<p>Tankettes last blog post..<a href="http://tankette.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/another-evenfull-night-nice-maiden-drop-and-guild-matters/" rel="nofollow">Another evenfull night, Nice Maiden drop and guild matters</a></p>
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		<title>By: Avonar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avonar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really excellent points, Wyn!

Avonars last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Confuzzled/~3/363787114/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shovelglove&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really excellent points, Wyn!</p>
<p>Avonars last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Confuzzled/~3/363787114/" rel="nofollow">Shovelglove</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tufva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tufva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit that I think people sometimes get stuck in a rut with their gear and stats. You need good +heal sure, but you also need your int, spirit and enough stamina to avoid being one-shotted. We&#039;ve done most of Kara loads and are just starting on ZA (not enough people to do 25-mans) and I&#039;m still in PMC, but my stamina is quite good.

How? I&#039;ve got +stamina gems (along with my yummy +spirit gems) and a couple of +stamina enchants and +stamina buff food. My +heal could be much, much higher than it is, but it is perfectly adequate for the content we are doing - so I have instead prioritised having enough stamina that even if I get hit really hard I usually retain enough of a sliver of health that I can heal myself and continue the fight. I have also focused on spirit to keep me in the game without going OOM.

Most gear checking sites like be.imba or similar, will tell you to put in healing gems and healing enchants on everything, but you need to think about whether that is right for you considering the rest of your gear and the content you are doing.

Like you said Wyn, it&#039;s not just the gear, it&#039;s how you gem and enchant it and use foods/elixirs etc. Everytime I get a new piece of gear I will look over my gems and enchants and see if it would make sense to swap anything. I think people sometimes stare themselves blind on swapping individual pieces of gear rather than have a holistic strategy for gear/gems/enchants/food.

Tufvas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tuftalk.blogspot.com/2008/08/levelling-and-expansion.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Levelling and the expansion&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit that I think people sometimes get stuck in a rut with their gear and stats. You need good +heal sure, but you also need your int, spirit and enough stamina to avoid being one-shotted. We&#8217;ve done most of Kara loads and are just starting on ZA (not enough people to do 25-mans) and I&#8217;m still in PMC, but my stamina is quite good.</p>
<p>How? I&#8217;ve got +stamina gems (along with my yummy +spirit gems) and a couple of +stamina enchants and +stamina buff food. My +heal could be much, much higher than it is, but it is perfectly adequate for the content we are doing &#8211; so I have instead prioritised having enough stamina that even if I get hit really hard I usually retain enough of a sliver of health that I can heal myself and continue the fight. I have also focused on spirit to keep me in the game without going OOM.</p>
<p>Most gear checking sites like be.imba or similar, will tell you to put in healing gems and healing enchants on everything, but you need to think about whether that is right for you considering the rest of your gear and the content you are doing.</p>
<p>Like you said Wyn, it&#8217;s not just the gear, it&#8217;s how you gem and enchant it and use foods/elixirs etc. Everytime I get a new piece of gear I will look over my gems and enchants and see if it would make sense to swap anything. I think people sometimes stare themselves blind on swapping individual pieces of gear rather than have a holistic strategy for gear/gems/enchants/food.</p>
<p>Tufvas last blog post..<a href="http://tuftalk.blogspot.com/2008/08/levelling-and-expansion.html" rel="nofollow">Levelling and the expansion</a></p>
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		<title>By: Flippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the new badge-loot is just another way of fast-forwarding people into new content through &quot;easier&quot; to obtain gear. This leads to people being less experienced at what they do, because the gear they&#039;ve obtained leaves more room for error.

Don&#039;t think I&#039;m bashing others: this is purely from my own experience. I don&#039;t raid (live in EU, play on US) and only rarely go to Kara or the like. Tuesday I was in a group, grabbing 40% of the healing with a druid and shaman also healing. Most of the times the group I was in (I live in PUGland) would skip Nightbane, but this time we went for it. So that was the, what, second time I&#039;ve seen that fight?

So I draw aggro after airphase by renew-ticks.. I eat an 8.2k-or-so hit.. And live, because I have 8.3k from gear, MOTW, Kings and an Imp. That&#039;s just bad playing on my part, but the raid isn&#039;t punished for my mistake..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the new badge-loot is just another way of fast-forwarding people into new content through &#8220;easier&#8221; to obtain gear. This leads to people being less experienced at what they do, because the gear they&#8217;ve obtained leaves more room for error.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m bashing others: this is purely from my own experience. I don&#8217;t raid (live in EU, play on US) and only rarely go to Kara or the like. Tuesday I was in a group, grabbing 40% of the healing with a druid and shaman also healing. Most of the times the group I was in (I live in PUGland) would skip Nightbane, but this time we went for it. So that was the, what, second time I&#8217;ve seen that fight?</p>
<p>So I draw aggro after airphase by renew-ticks.. I eat an 8.2k-or-so hit.. And live, because I have 8.3k from gear, MOTW, Kings and an Imp. That&#8217;s just bad playing on my part, but the raid isn&#8217;t punished for my mistake..</p>
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		<title>By: Lakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PEBCAK - #1 cause of death amongst priests</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PEBCAK &#8211; #1 cause of death amongst priests</p>
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		<title>By: Jamison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m another Holy Priest that will agree with you (Melchizedeck on Moonrunner). I&#039;m not a big raider, but I know plenty of people who are progressing nicely and haven&#039;t replaced their PMC set yet. A lot of it does go to how good the raid is at everyone doing their jobs. I&#039;ve ran with some groups where the tank couldn&#039;t hold aggro on a mob if he was given steel chains and a padlock, and I&#039;ve been in those exact same instances with tanks that know what to do and I never have to dodge any break-away mobs. It all depends on people paying attention.

What I&#039;d suggest is to look at your other gear, like your weapon. Gavel of Naaru Blessings is a great badge mace, and though it takes a while to get, +42 stam is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m another Holy Priest that will agree with you (Melchizedeck on Moonrunner). I&#8217;m not a big raider, but I know plenty of people who are progressing nicely and haven&#8217;t replaced their PMC set yet. A lot of it does go to how good the raid is at everyone doing their jobs. I&#8217;ve ran with some groups where the tank couldn&#8217;t hold aggro on a mob if he was given steel chains and a padlock, and I&#8217;ve been in those exact same instances with tanks that know what to do and I never have to dodge any break-away mobs. It all depends on people paying attention.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d suggest is to look at your other gear, like your weapon. Gavel of Naaru Blessings is a great badge mace, and though it takes a while to get, +42 stam is great.</p>
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