Comments on: Ask Matticus: Should I Leave my Guild?

By: Rosina

Rosina — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:56:14 +0000

Oh o ho! very nice site!

By: jeroen

jeroen — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:42:18 +0000

Lucky to find you, keep on the good workk guys! Best of luck.5

By: Cathia

Cathia — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:22:07 +0000

Hey again, i informed my gm and officers about my decision and then kinda dindt accepted it at the beggining but then i had an long talk and they understood my point of view and let me go to another guild for new raid experiences.Now i have downde 3 bosses of ssc and 4 of za.Thanks for the help matticus and all you guys as well.Keep up the good work on this site. ^^

By: dsitc

dsitc — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:09:48 +0000

Know what you want. Be honest, and talk about it.

If your guild does not provide you with this, by all means, leave. But keep in mind that you have to work for your goals. You won’t get anythin handed on a silver platter.

By: Conflicted Mage

Conflicted Mage — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:55:21 +0000

About the time I was finishing the grind to 70, I joined my current guild. Most were still getting to 70 and getting Kara attuned. I wasn’t really focused on raiding yet and had friends in the guild, so their progression didn’t matter to me. Well as time went on the guild evolved into a “casual” raiding guild (yes I know it’s kinda an evil term these days). I raided with the guild for their progression, then pug’d into higher raids for myself. I’m at the point now where I can’t really Pug my progression anymore (at least not effectively) and the guild is kind of stalled on Lurker and VR. The obvious choice would be to explain to the guild and move on (hopefully amicably), but there is a problem with that. I am the mage CL and one of the higher DPSers in the guild. On top of that, I’ve played the peacemaker many many times, and I think quite a few people would follow me out the door. So there’s the conflict. I want to progress, but I don’t want to cripple my current guild by leaving. I have good in-game friends there and they are all really good people. I stay, reasoning that I play for fun, and it’s more fun to raid with people you like and have fun with than to progress. But as people continue to get frustrated and leave, it becomes harder and harder to stay. What to do? lol And sorry for the wall-o-text Matt.

By: Hankwilliams

Hankwilliams — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:39:06 +0000

if your guild can only do what pugs manage on a daily basis then i suggest applying to better guilds and if you can make their raids/get accepted…./gquit

By: Karthis

Karthis — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:09:53 +0000

Make a channel for you and your friends from your old guild, and move on. Stay in touch over the channel.

By: Dechion

Dechion — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:36:26 +0000

first off, please talk to your officers adn guild leader. having been an officer at one time I can say Siha is quite right about us not being psychic.

If your current guild is not planning progression at a pace that you can deal with, talk to the leadership of your current guild and the leadership of the one you are considering running with. See if you can get put on as a backup for the SSC/TK guild while staying in you current guild. You would likely be a backup for some time anyway in your new more progerssed guild.

This would give the new guild a chance to get a feel for you and see if you fit their requirements. It also keeps you guilded with folks you already know, if nothing else farming badges for the new gear upgrades from sunwell (I want’s me that mace). Lastly, If nothing else it would give you a feeling for how the new guild would treat you once you were there. Check the grass and see if it really is greener. If you can get the leadership of both to agree to it, it really os a win/win for everyone invloved.

If you do decide to /gquit and move on, please take a few minutes to talk to your officers. Not only will it keep you from burning bridges you may want to cross again some day, but if there is one person feeling this way others may as well.

The guild leadership may assume everyone is content. At the same time you may not be the only one thinking about leaving. One thing to remember is the guild leaders cannot address concerns that they don’t know about. As the old saying goes “I can’t fix it if Don’t know its broken” Your bringing it up may help get your current guild moving more towards the content you want to see. Even if you choose to leave at least the leadership will know why.

Wow, thats quite a “wall ‘o text” I must need more coffee this morning =)

By: Siha

Siha — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:07:09 +0000

A suggestion from a guild leader: before you decide to leave, talk to your guild leader/officers! Unless you’re an officer yourself, or you have an extraordinarily open guild, you don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Maybe the officers are, even now, debating whether to farm more or push for progression, and your input could help sway the answer.

I’m serious! Officers aren’t psychic. A bit of input from guild members about what they want can make all the difference in officer decision-making, especially when they’re trying to judge what direction the membership wants to take on a given issue.

If you approach them and they say “thanks, but we’re happy with our current schedule” or some equivalent, then you’re best off leaving on the best terms you can manage. But don’t give up on them until and unless you’re sure you want to move faster than they’ll let you.

By: Rivellana - Smolderthorn - Alliance

Rivellana - Smolderthorn - Alliance — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:25:39 +0000

The answers you’ve received from some of the others are right on, and I’ve even been in the situation myself. I was in my guild for quite awhile and was even a class leader, but as this was at the very start of our progressions, and I was getting tired of every kara run being a 3-hour attempt to get through the skeletal horses and not even being able to down Attumen, plus the fact that we weren’t even raiding every week because half the time we wouldn’t have enough tanks or healers online to fill the spots, I decided to leave for a new guild so I could progress personally. I did a few kara runs with the new guild, but it never felt the same. I missed all my friends from the old guild and realized that they were the reason I really play the game, not so much for progression. Eventually the new guild fell apart and I went back to my old guild. I lost my class leader position, and it took me awhile to earn back a spot as an officer.

I’ve had friends who left the guild for progression reasons, progressed well in other guilds, but have had to move around from guild to guild as their current guilds fell apart and even though they stay in touch, you can tell they’re unhappy at some level. Sure, you can make new friends in a new guild, but you might miss some of your old friends as well.

So before you make the jump, think it over long and hard, and make sure you research any new guild you’re thinking about joining beforehand.