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	<title>Comments on: Healers Spill: White Lies we Tell Tanks All the Time</title>
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	<description>Practical advice for World of Warcraft healers and leaders</description>
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		<title>By: Tyaera</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/19/healers-spill-white-lies-we-tell-tanks-all-the-time/comment-page-1/#comment-10510</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyaera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The day I hit 70 as a paladin tank I went on a few instance runs. 

Took a priest from the guild I was in at the time, named Rayt. He had the primal mooncloth thing going on, so I had to be extra careful of his health.

As we ran instances and got better gear, we were able to tackle more. As my gear improved, I could tank more mobs at once, and he was able to heal me through it. 

When I left that guild for 25man raiding, I convinced him to come with me. That was when the 25man guild was about to start working on HKM, end of April. We dropped him first night, then Gruul. now, three months later, we&#039;re working on Archimonde, with 4/5 Hyjal and 4/9 BT down. 

I remember the first time we did Heroic Shattered Halls and I AOE-tanked it all without CC. He pretty much had to spam max rank Greater Heal on me to keep me up.

Now, his healing power and my avoidance and armor are at a level where he can keep me up through the biggest of the pulls in that instance using nothing more than Renew and PoM, with an occasional downranked Greater Heal. 

We&#039;ve come a long way, and he&#039;s contributed to the guild success more than I think he knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day I hit 70 as a paladin tank I went on a few instance runs. </p>
<p>Took a priest from the guild I was in at the time, named Rayt. He had the primal mooncloth thing going on, so I had to be extra careful of his health.</p>
<p>As we ran instances and got better gear, we were able to tackle more. As my gear improved, I could tank more mobs at once, and he was able to heal me through it. </p>
<p>When I left that guild for 25man raiding, I convinced him to come with me. That was when the 25man guild was about to start working on HKM, end of April. We dropped him first night, then Gruul. now, three months later, we&#8217;re working on Archimonde, with 4/5 Hyjal and 4/9 BT down. </p>
<p>I remember the first time we did Heroic Shattered Halls and I AOE-tanked it all without CC. He pretty much had to spam max rank Greater Heal on me to keep me up.</p>
<p>Now, his healing power and my avoidance and armor are at a level where he can keep me up through the biggest of the pulls in that instance using nothing more than Renew and PoM, with an occasional downranked Greater Heal. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve come a long way, and he&#8217;s contributed to the guild success more than I think he knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Bichin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bichin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a great relationship with the tank I usually do runs with.....we are married IRL!!!! ;)

I can give him a hard time as he sits next to me and constantly shout &#039;they&#039;re on me!!!!&#039; at him.....he comes running to my aid!!!

Best combo ever!!! ;)

I must admit though, I tend to blame myself for wipes (even if not my fault), although I agree with those who say guild groups are easier!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a great relationship with the tank I usually do runs with&#8230;..we are married IRL!!!! <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can give him a hard time as he sits next to me and constantly shout &#8216;they&#8217;re on me!!!!&#8217; at him&#8230;..he comes running to my aid!!!</p>
<p>Best combo ever!!! <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I must admit though, I tend to blame myself for wipes (even if not my fault), although I agree with those who say guild groups are easier!</p>
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		<title>By: Khaeron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khaeron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually don&#039;t lie to tanks much, mostly because I tend to run only with tanks in my guild and they&#039;re all great. (One isn&#039;t so hot, but she&#039;s just learning to ropes and she apologizes constantly. After killing Omor from 40% in Heroic Ramps with me at no mana because the Warlock didn&#039;t banish the felpuppies, she apologized. It&#039;s nuts.) Occasionally I run into problems because the folks I tend to heal for like stacking avoidance and go for lots of threat over lots of stamina because we have really excellent DPS, so if they get smacked by two or three hits in a row my heart starts doing calisthenics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually don&#8217;t lie to tanks much, mostly because I tend to run only with tanks in my guild and they&#8217;re all great. (One isn&#8217;t so hot, but she&#8217;s just learning to ropes and she apologizes constantly. After killing Omor from 40% in Heroic Ramps with me at no mana because the Warlock didn&#8217;t banish the felpuppies, she apologized. It&#8217;s nuts.) Occasionally I run into problems because the folks I tend to heal for like stacking avoidance and go for lots of threat over lots of stamina because we have really excellent DPS, so if they get smacked by two or three hits in a row my heart starts doing calisthenics.</p>
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		<title>By: Belianda/Missdusk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belianda/Missdusk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, my funny story is that I have a resto druid (which I lvled first) and now a pally tank.  I know all the lies a healer can tell.  I also know how bad some healers are.  Let me tell you, tanking scares the u know what out of me sometimes when I know the healer I&#039;m running with is bad.  Btw, resto druids have the best line of all:
&quot;what u expect me to keep the tank up with 1k rejuv tick? where are my other healers?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, my funny story is that I have a resto druid (which I lvled first) and now a pally tank.  I know all the lies a healer can tell.  I also know how bad some healers are.  Let me tell you, tanking scares the u know what out of me sometimes when I know the healer I&#8217;m running with is bad.  Btw, resto druids have the best line of all:<br />
&#8220;what u expect me to keep the tank up with 1k rejuv tick? where are my other healers?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sharkeater</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharkeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great site. and with a new priest its already coming in handy.

As a lock who has run all the way to hyjal now I can say even at these levels, there are tanks who insist on stacking tiny bits of stamina (yes stam is importaint but won&#039;t save you when you are gettting smacked repeatedly for 14k damage) instead of mitigation.

Time and time again, dude we have geared up great. goes to za and dies.  Even with great healers.

I took a friend in a guild run, guy was in half blues, but uses an 11 button mouse, aka all of his moves not just out there randomly mashing buttons hoping to &quot;tank sumt&quot; and was socketed fine.

We rolled right through the first four avitars with him as OT.

Sumt to be said for tank skills sockets and builds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great site. and with a new priest its already coming in handy.</p>
<p>As a lock who has run all the way to hyjal now I can say even at these levels, there are tanks who insist on stacking tiny bits of stamina (yes stam is importaint but won&#8217;t save you when you are gettting smacked repeatedly for 14k damage) instead of mitigation.</p>
<p>Time and time again, dude we have geared up great. goes to za and dies.  Even with great healers.</p>
<p>I took a friend in a guild run, guy was in half blues, but uses an 11 button mouse, aka all of his moves not just out there randomly mashing buttons hoping to &#8220;tank sumt&#8221; and was socketed fine.</p>
<p>We rolled right through the first four avitars with him as OT.</p>
<p>Sumt to be said for tank skills sockets and builds.</p>
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		<title>By: Gius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m probably not typical but when the raid wipes because I didn&#039;t get enough heals I am usually just thinking, &quot;at least the wipe wasn&#039;t my fault this time&quot;. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m probably not typical but when the raid wipes because I didn&#8217;t get enough heals I am usually just thinking, &#8220;at least the wipe wasn&#8217;t my fault this time&#8221;. lol</p>
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		<title>By: Secret&#8217;s Out - Matticus a Part of WoW Insider : World of Matticus</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/19/healers-spill-white-lies-we-tell-tanks-all-the-time/comment-page-1/#comment-8415</link>
		<dc:creator>Secret&#8217;s Out - Matticus a Part of WoW Insider : World of Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to write will end up in that subject area. If you look around my blog, you can see I write about a variety of topics such as guild management and raid leading in addition to being a Holy Priest. My current [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to write will end up in that subject area. If you look around my blog, you can see I write about a variety of topics such as guild management and raid leading in addition to being a Holy Priest. My current [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SuraBear</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuraBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, I get quite a bit of recognition for my tanking abilities.  Same with our guild&#039;s warrior main tank.  Mostly from the healers (though half of the time they&#039;re complaining of boredom. . . I once caused a wipe by shifting out of form after my shaman healer said &quot;Dammit, Surania, take more damage!&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, I get quite a bit of recognition for my tanking abilities.  Same with our guild&#8217;s warrior main tank.  Mostly from the healers (though half of the time they&#8217;re complaining of boredom. . . I once caused a wipe by shifting out of form after my shaman healer said &#8220;Dammit, Surania, take more damage!&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Digest: 4 New Bosses Down, Healers Lie, and the BA Podcast : World of Matticus</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/19/healers-spill-white-lies-we-tell-tanks-all-the-time/comment-page-1/#comment-7363</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Digest: 4 New Bosses Down, Healers Lie, and the BA Podcast : World of Matticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is your healer lying to you? Find out common lies! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kirev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You&#039;re the best tank ever: IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve had to say this on more then one occasion. I swear, some tanks seem to have the largest egos in the world. I guess itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s because theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re needed so often.&quot;

We don&#039;t necessarily have big egos, we just want some recognition once in a while. :P Like when I tanked heroic SH last time with a pug I felt I was doing a good job with my abilities and whatnot. No wipes, no mistakes, no nothing. On the second boss, the untauntable one, people started saying the healer was so great for keeping them up, and my heart sank. :p (though he was good ofc) As I like to say, you never notice if a tank is good, but you will quickly notice if he is bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re the best tank ever: IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve had to say this on more then one occasion. I swear, some tanks seem to have the largest egos in the world. I guess itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s because theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re needed so often.&#8221;</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t necessarily have big egos, we just want some recognition once in a while. <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  Like when I tanked heroic SH last time with a pug I felt I was doing a good job with my abilities and whatnot. No wipes, no mistakes, no nothing. On the second boss, the untauntable one, people started saying the healer was so great for keeping them up, and my heart sank. :p (though he was good ofc) As I like to say, you never notice if a tank is good, but you will quickly notice if he is bad.</p>
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