Comments on: Leaving the Guild the Right Way http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/ Where healers come first Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:49:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: /hug » Startin’ Over http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-8859 /hug » Startin’ Over Sun, 11 May 2008 14:02:28 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-8859 [...] I could hope to. If you’re interested in them you might want to look at Matticus’ post here for a start on that [...] [...] I could hope to. If you’re interested in them you might want to look at Matticus’ post here for a start on that [...]

]]> By: Amandine http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-8208 Amandine Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:54:15 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-8208 I am an officer in a small guild on Nagrand. My friend got given the GMship of it a few months ago and invited us in. Us being a group of about 7 people -- this was good cause it gave us a place other than amandine channel (no no i'm not egotistical at all) to chat in But the downside was I think we may have changed the otne of the guild a bit when we came in. One of the old officer would hardly ever speak to anyone in the guild, and then one day she invites one of her friends in and then /gquits and hour later with no explanation as to why. We had done our best to include her in 5mans and so forth but I guess we broke her guild; which I feel a bit guilty about. Mind you that was a more pleasant situation than when I got assigned to Discuss with a friend Issues the Guild had... I am an officer in a small guild on Nagrand. My friend got given the GMship of it a few months ago and invited us in. Us being a group of about 7 people — this was good cause it gave us a place other than amandine channel (no no i’m not egotistical at all) to chat in But the downside was I think we may have changed the otne of the guild a bit when we came in. One of the old officer would hardly ever speak to anyone in the guild, and then one day she invites one of her friends in and then /gquits and hour later with no explanation as to why.

We had done our best to include her in 5mans and so forth but I guess we broke her guild; which I feel a bit guilty about.

Mind you that was a more pleasant situation than when I got assigned to Discuss with a friend Issues the Guild had…

]]> By: Asara http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7370 Asara Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:44:36 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-7370 I completely agree with this. And not just in-game either. RL I am a department supervisor, and I tell people all the time, if you don't tell me something is wrong, I am not going to know I need to fix it! Open communication between the members and officers is a M U S T. Even if you know there's nothing that can be done to fix the problem, people are going to be a lot more hurt and confused at a silent gquit, especially that they didn't even get a chance to try to help you before you decided you were fed up. Thanks for this post, Matticus :) I completely agree with this. And not just in-game either. RL I am a department supervisor, and I tell people all the time, if you don’t tell me something is wrong, I am not going to know I need to fix it! Open communication between the members and officers is a M U S T. Even if you know there’s nothing that can be done to fix the problem, people are going to be a lot more hurt and confused at a silent gquit, especially that they didn’t even get a chance to try to help you before you decided you were fed up. Thanks for this post, Matticus :)

]]> By: Guild drama and communication « Black Grimoire http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7222 Guild drama and communication « Black Grimoire Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:29:49 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-7222 [...] drama and communication Matticus posted a bit ago about how to leave a guild the right way. Guild drama, when to leave, how to stay, [...] [...] drama and communication Matticus posted a bit ago about how to leave a guild the right way. Guild drama, when to leave, how to stay, [...]

]]> By: Zahrah http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7151 Zahrah Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:17:11 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-7151 Todate: I don't think that anyone has left my previous guild on a 'happy' note. I thought I did the right thing, withdrew gradually from things that were upsetting me: Except maybe I should have posted my reasons for leaving on our General forum after, if only to discourage rumour, and set my side of the story right.. But leaving was seen to be personal, and It wasn't it just was time for so many reasons. In sentiment, what you have outlined is very reasonable as to steps to take to leave, but relys on the other party to be reasonable too. Todate: I don’t think that anyone has left my previous guild on a ‘happy’ note. I thought I did the right thing, withdrew gradually from things that were upsetting me: Except maybe I should have posted my reasons for leaving on our General forum after, if only to discourage rumour, and set my side of the story right.. But leaving was seen to be personal, and It wasn’t it just was time for so many reasons. In sentiment, what you have outlined is very reasonable as to steps to take to leave, but relys on the other party to be reasonable too.

]]> By: Tsukikoh http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7136 Tsukikoh Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:24:23 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-7136 I'd definitely say communication is key. My guild has had a little drama lately with a reorganization and I was one of the people not sure I wanted to stick with the guild. It's a strong RP guild and I wanted to do more team things. BG's, instances and raiding. I spoke with the guild leaders, got assurances that things were changing. And last night got to do my first Kara run with the guild. I'd say it's worked out very well. I’d definitely say communication is key. My guild has had a little drama lately with a reorganization and I was one of the people not sure I wanted to stick with the guild. It’s a strong RP guild and I wanted to do more team things. BG’s, instances and raiding. I spoke with the guild leaders, got assurances that things were changing. And last night got to do my first Kara run with the guild. I’d say it’s worked out very well.

]]> By: More Upgrades and a Plea for Recruits : World of Matticus http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7057 More Upgrades and a Plea for Recruits : World of Matticus Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:36:15 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-7057 [...] mentioned earlier yesterday about the right way that players should leave Guilds. We’ve lost two players earlier in the week and I’ve been asked to help find some [...] [...] mentioned earlier yesterday about the right way that players should leave Guilds. We’ve lost two players earlier in the week and I’ve been asked to help find some [...]

]]> By: Zemalf http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7056 Zemalf Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:28:04 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-7056 Something like this should be in every guild's guidelines to encourage openness and constructive feedback. Most people mumble to themselves or couple close friends about the problems or their unsatisfied expectations about the guild. And then they just leave. Some even do the sneak gquit, leaving when no-one is online. Think if you wouldn't talk about problems you have at work and just quit there (if you could just leave that is), that would be rather stupid, right? If you gotta move on (change jobs), you talk to your boss about it, so do it at WoW too. Yes, WoW is only a game and being in a guild is not a job in that sence, but there's some analogy there I think. Something like this should be in every guild’s guidelines to encourage openness and constructive feedback.

Most people mumble to themselves or couple close friends about the problems or their unsatisfied expectations about the guild. And then they just leave. Some even do the sneak gquit, leaving when no-one is online.

Think if you wouldn’t talk about problems you have at work and just quit there (if you could just leave that is), that would be rather stupid, right? If you gotta move on (change jobs), you talk to your boss about it, so do it at WoW too.

Yes, WoW is only a game and being in a guild is not a job in that sence, but there’s some analogy there I think.

]]> By: Athryn http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7038 Athryn Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:36:35 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-7038 Thanks for this post, Matticus! I recently had a couple of people leave my guild, neither of whom followed any of these guidelines, and it was a pretty unpleasant and emotional situation for me, as one of them later said it was because I said "mean" things to other people in the guild. Never talking about problems with people and not working them out is really frustrating to someone in guild leadership, and the person left basically tore a gaping hole in the guild when they did. It's hard not to take things like that personally when they happen. :( Thanks for this post, Matticus! I recently had a couple of people leave my guild, neither of whom followed any of these guidelines, and it was a pretty unpleasant and emotional situation for me, as one of them later said it was because I said “mean” things to other people in the guild.

Never talking about problems with people and not working them out is really frustrating to someone in guild leadership, and the person left basically tore a gaping hole in the guild when they did. It’s hard not to take things like that personally when they happen. :(

]]> By: Galoheart http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7035 Galoheart Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:56:05 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/02/14/leaving-the-guild-the-right-way/#comment-7035 Matt you always write some the most interesting stuff. So i'm glad you wrote this piece because its something that at some point will affect everyone that plays this game long enough. Another reason I'm glad you wrote it is because now it saves me from writing it but you can write it soo much better. So now I don't have to write this piece ever. But i may link it in a post on my blog relating to it. I remembered when i joined and left the first real guild i ever really joined with others at 70 over a month ago "Ascention" But of course i write all that on my blog too so if you read you knew it. I remember when i felt it just was not the right place for me though the guild was a great guild and doing well. They were doing fine in Kara and had great people. However i just felt there was not a place for me there with 10+ Tanks. I knew most the officers because heck i classic PuG'd with them all in 5 mans when i was unguilded. When i came to my decision I /w the GM and had a few min conversation about my decision and that i was planning on leaving and that i had though about it and was firm in my decision. He was sad to see me go. But i explained why i was making the decision to leave and letting him know. I had enough class not to just /gquit or stealth quit or whatever kind of quit you can call it. He understood my position and point because the guild did have a ton of tanks. So i told him i'll take my chances and find some other place where i could make a difference and that they be just fine without me. The GM understood. But before i also left that same night I also announces it in Guild Chat that i was also leaving to the rest of the guild. Though i wasn't well know or popular in the guild I knew most the top people by having instanced with them and they knew me by reputation. So I said good by to all in Guild Chat and that i had talked to the GM already so he was already aware of my decision. Wasn't like i was leaving the server because i explained i'll still run into some of them from time to time and if they needed help they could ask. I left after that but i guess in the end I Left The RIght Way with common courtesy to my then guildmates and with my dignity. I even had the screenshots though i never displayed them in my posts. Matt you always write some the most interesting stuff. So i’m glad you wrote this piece because its something that at some point will affect everyone that plays this game long enough.

Another reason I’m glad you wrote it is because now it saves me from writing it but you can write it soo much better. So now I don’t have to write this piece ever. But i may link it in a post on my blog relating to it.

I remembered when i joined and left the first real guild i ever really joined with others at 70 over a month ago “Ascention” But of course i write all that on my blog too so if you read you knew it. I remember when i felt it just was not the right place for me though the guild was a great guild and doing well. They were doing fine in Kara and had great people. However i just felt there was not a place for me there with 10+ Tanks.

I knew most the officers because heck i classic PuG’d with them all in 5 mans when i was unguilded. When i came to my decision I /w the GM and had a few min conversation about my decision and that i was planning on leaving and that i had though about it and was firm in my decision. He was sad to see me go. But i explained why i was making the decision to leave and letting him know. I had enough class not to just /gquit or stealth quit or whatever kind of quit you can call it. He understood my position and point because the guild did have a ton of tanks. So i told him i’ll take my chances and find some other place where i could make a difference and that they be just fine without me.

The GM understood. But before i also left that same night I also announces it in Guild Chat that i was also leaving to the rest of the guild. Though i wasn’t well know or popular in the guild I knew most the top people by having instanced with them and they knew me by reputation. So I said good by to all in Guild Chat and that i had talked to the GM already so he was already aware of my decision. Wasn’t like i was leaving the server because i explained i’ll still run into some of them from time to time and if they needed help they could ask.

I left after that but i guess in the end I Left The RIght Way with common courtesy to my then guildmates and with my dignity. I even had the screenshots though i never displayed them in my posts.

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