Comments on: 3 Approaches to Guild Progression http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/ Where healers come first Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:14:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: My Content Is Your Content : World of Matticus http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-7989 My Content Is Your Content : World of Matticus Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:36:45 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-7989 [...] sometimes receive requests either via email or in my comments for permission to copy some parts of my blog posts for use on Guild forums or other Webpages and I [...] [...] sometimes receive requests either via email or in my comments for permission to copy some parts of my blog posts for use on Guild forums or other Webpages and I [...]

]]> By: Matticus! http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-7850 Matticus! Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:16:17 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-7850 Molmyris: By all means. Molmyris: By all means.

]]> By: Molmyris http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-7849 Molmyris Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:39:32 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-7849 Very nice article. I'd like to quote it for my guild's forum, since we're starting late Karazhan and I want to avoid the wipe-n-quit attitude. With your permission, of course. Very nice article. I’d like to quote it for my guild’s forum, since we’re starting late Karazhan and I want to avoid the wipe-n-quit attitude.

With your permission, of course.

]]> By: GB http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-6713 GB Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:37:48 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-6713 @matt: Yeah, i am just bitchy and jaded overall. =) When you lose a team you really enjoy it is very disheartening. @matt: Yeah, i am just bitchy and jaded overall. =)

When you lose a team you really enjoy it is very disheartening.

]]> By: Matticus! http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-6708 Matticus! Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:59:19 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-6708 GB: Ouch, but your attitude seems to have been the product of an unfortunate circumstance. I know I would tear my hair out if I had to "relearn" an instance that I had on farm for months. Arduanne: Indeed! A lot of players think they can get away with free loot. But they can't, because WoW doesn't work that way. What on earth can we do with quitters? =( GB: Ouch, but your attitude seems to have been the product of an unfortunate circumstance. I know I would tear my hair out if I had to “relearn” an instance that I had on farm for months.

Arduanne: Indeed! A lot of players think they can get away with free loot. But they can’t, because WoW doesn’t work that way.

What on earth can we do with quitters? =(

]]> By: Arduanne http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-6704 Arduanne Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:55:39 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-6704 One of the killing attitudes for progression are the guys that I personally don't like running anything, including 5 mans with. The minute someone dies, they quit and are running for the door. Keep your head in the game and do what you can to keep working on that boss. It may not be an ideal situation but if your guild is adept at changing with the circumstances you may still see progression. I don't want to hear "we can't do this." I want to hear solutions and can-do attitudes. And as my mom always said, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." One of the killing attitudes for progression are the guys that I personally don’t like running anything, including 5 mans with. The minute someone dies, they quit and are running for the door.

Keep your head in the game and do what you can to keep working on that boss. It may not be an ideal situation but if your guild is adept at changing with the circumstances you may still see progression. I don’t want to hear “we can’t do this.” I want to hear solutions and can-do attitudes. And as my mom always said, “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.”

]]> By: GB http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-6702 GB Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:45:15 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-6702 [It’s either "kill" or "wipe" and nothing in between. Thinking like that is poisonous and dangerous.] I am guilty of being the wipe and quit guy. I am one of the remaining original team of raiders in the guild that has lost and gained a lot of players. I cannot spend hours wiping on raids that we previously had on farm. I now pvp while others L2Raid. [It’s either "kill" or "wipe" and nothing in between. Thinking like that is poisonous and dangerous.]

I am guilty of being the wipe and quit guy. I am one of the remaining original team of raiders in the guild that has lost and gained a lot of players. I cannot spend hours wiping on raids that we previously had on farm. I now pvp while others L2Raid.

]]> By: Bellwether http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-6694 Bellwether Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:24:27 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-6694 words to live by. My guild was just discussing progression a little today. Thank you for this timely and relevant article ;) words to live by. My guild was just discussing progression a little today. Thank you for this timely and relevant article ;)

]]> By: Galoheart http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-6691 Galoheart Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:26:07 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-6691 Im not yet raiding but soon. Progression for me on the day that I can actually play WoW and being too busy working, sleeping and working is running at minimum one Heroic for my 5 badges. At best 3 Heroics if I can for 12 Badges. That for me is progression because I'm working toward my Badge reward gear for tanking. And since I don't PvP or do BG's running Heroics daily for Badges is my way of progressing myself. But you say Guild progression and how is that guild progression. Well if I'm better geared as a Tankadin besides with upgraded gear it benefits progression and make the encounter a little easier Tanking wise when I get there. Im not yet raiding but soon. Progression for me on the day that I can actually play WoW and being too busy working, sleeping and working is running at minimum one Heroic for my 5 badges. At best 3 Heroics if I can for 12 Badges. That for me is progression because I’m working toward my Badge reward gear for tanking. And since I don’t PvP or do BG’s running Heroics daily for Badges is my way of progressing myself.

But you say Guild progression and how is that guild progression. Well if I’m better geared as a Tankadin besides with upgraded gear it benefits progression and make the encounter a little easier Tanking wise when I get there.

]]> By: Matticus! http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/comment-page-1/#comment-6690 Matticus! Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:22:28 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2008/01/30/3-approaches-to-guild-progression/#comment-6690 Bel, I know what you mean and it's incredibly frustrating. A lot of Guilds just might not have as much trouble if they got that extra bit of stamina gear. Bel,

I know what you mean and it’s incredibly frustrating. A lot of Guilds just might not have as much trouble if they got that extra bit of stamina gear.

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