Comments on: Healing Tips for 25-Man Raiding: WoW Insidered, Matt Reviewed http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/ Where healers come first Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:49:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Agrona http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-5965 Agrona Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:41:53 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/#comment-5965 Good post Matt. I completely agree that a raid doesn't have to have one of each healer type. Though, some fights really are ment to be healed a certain way(like some bosses force you to put HOTs on the tanks :P) Good post Matt. I completely agree that a raid doesn’t have to have one of each healer type. Though, some fights really are ment to be healed a certain way(like some bosses force you to put HOTs on the tanks :P )

]]> By: Matticus! http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-5963 Matticus! Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:50:15 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/#comment-5963 Doc, I talked to him about it already. Our raid times aren't convenient for him. Doc, I talked to him about it already. Our raid times aren’t convenient for him.

]]> By: Doc Holiday http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-5951 Doc Holiday Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:52:33 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/#comment-5951 You dont need Holy Priests or Resto Druids really. You could get away with 4 Pallies and 3 Resto Shamans healing and I have raided BT and Hyjal with such a group. Really geared Resto Shamans chain healing is quite an advantage Why dont you recruit Kilmster matt You dont need Holy Priests or Resto Druids really. You could get away with 4 Pallies and 3 Resto Shamans healing and I have raided BT and Hyjal with such a group.

Really geared Resto Shamans chain healing is quite an advantage

Why dont you recruit Kilmster matt

]]> By: Apathy http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-5949 Apathy Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:46:18 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/#comment-5949 To all those whining about raid healer variation and how Holy Priests suck and nobody wants more than 1 in raids and what not... Tell it to the five Holy Priests in my guild that are in practically every raid. And the 1 Resto Druid we have. We have so many Priests its ridiculous. Soon we will conquer the world! MWA HA HA HA HA!!! And we're 4/6 and 2/4 in the Tier 5 instances, soon to be 3/4 in TK. To all those whining about raid healer variation and how Holy Priests suck and nobody wants more than 1 in raids and what not…

Tell it to the five Holy Priests in my guild that are in practically every raid. And the 1 Resto Druid we have.

We have so many Priests its ridiculous. Soon we will conquer the world! MWA HA HA HA HA!!!

And we’re 4/6 and 2/4 in the Tier 5 instances, soon to be 3/4 in TK.

]]> By: Karthis http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-5947 Karthis Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:51:53 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/#comment-5947 QSS runs with 7 healers typically, and when sign-ups permit I always try for at least one of each class. We have 4 raiding resto druids, 3 raiding holy priests, 3 raiding holy paladins, and 1 raiding resto shaman. Go figure. I love our trees though.... we'll often have 4-5 druids in a raid, which provides a wonderful amount of battle reses. QSS runs with 7 healers typically, and when sign-ups permit I always try for at least one of each class. We have 4 raiding resto druids, 3 raiding holy priests, 3 raiding holy paladins, and 1 raiding resto shaman. Go figure. I love our trees though…. we’ll often have 4-5 druids in a raid, which provides a wonderful amount of battle reses.

]]> By: Malva http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-5945 Malva Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:25:36 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/#comment-5945 I’m also a Grid user. I love it. We run with 7 healers, we often make do with 6 but we don’t do it intentionally. Obviously we sometime try to bring in more if the boss fight we’re currently working on warrants it but we don’t often seem to have that luxury. The main thing I wanted to comment on is that I’m glad we don’t start cutting healers when the fights get easier. We just let the healers muck around and will have a couple of us dps’ing instead of bringing in extra dps. It gives us the chance to participate anyway. I’m also a Grid user. I love it.

We run with 7 healers, we often make do with 6 but we don’t do it intentionally. Obviously we sometime try to bring in more if the boss fight we’re currently working on warrants it but we don’t often seem to have that luxury.

The main thing I wanted to comment on is that I’m glad we don’t start cutting healers when the fights get easier. We just let the healers muck around and will have a couple of us dps’ing instead of bringing in extra dps. It gives us the chance to participate anyway.

]]> By: Matticus! http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-5942 Matticus! Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:42:21 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/#comment-5942 Kulrayk, NINE healers? Whoa. That's a bit... much, I think. But I guess it depends on the encounters. I'm still waiting for a Guild that has the guts to run a Disc priest. Haven't yet found one. I want to find out their experiences. Masato, I've been so used to using XPerl to heal I'm almost afraid to switch to Grid in the event that it would hinder my performance. I have heard great things about it, however and I would recommend it to those who who're looking for an addon. Kulrayk, NINE healers? Whoa. That’s a bit… much, I think. But I guess it depends on the encounters.

I’m still waiting for a Guild that has the guts to run a Disc priest. Haven’t yet found one. I want to find out their experiences.

Masato, I’ve been so used to using XPerl to heal I’m almost afraid to switch to Grid in the event that it would hinder my performance. I have heard great things about it, however and I would recommend it to those who who’re looking for an addon.

]]> By: Kulrayk http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-5939 Kulrayk Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:27:36 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/#comment-5939 I found that my ideal raid setting for healers was: 1 CoH priest 1 Imp DS Priest 3 Paladins, 1 with kings / imp conc aura 2 Resto Druids 2 Resto Shammies Sadly we don't get that usually, but when we do, our runs are flawless. :) I found that my ideal raid setting for healers was:
1 CoH priest
1 Imp DS Priest
3 Paladins, 1 with kings / imp conc aura
2 Resto Druids
2 Resto Shammies

Sadly we don’t get that usually, but when we do, our runs are flawless. :)

]]> By: Masato http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/comment-page-1/#comment-5936 Masato Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:57:42 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/12/19/healing-tips-for-25-man-raiding-wow-insidered-matt-reviewed/#comment-5936 I agree with your analysis. You don't need 1 of every type of healer, but it is nice. For awhile we had no 5 priests and 3 druids doing the heals. Didn't stop us from numerous SSC kills, but it did kind of hurt our tier loot (with 2-3 shadow priests, 2 ferals, a moonkin, 2 prot warriors in the raid aswell... yay for 16/25 people with the same token!). As we made more and more progress though, it was easier to recruit more of the needed classes, and we now usually run with a very balanced raid, using just about every spec except for an ele sham. (Yes, we have moonkin, prot and ret palys, enh sham, fury warrior, all of which were in our first Kael kill). Having the balance in healer class is very nice, but by no means absolutely necessary. For monitoring health/range, I use the Grid addon, which I have set up to show everyone's health bars, my lifebloom timers on each person, an indicator that shows if they have other HoT's on them, poisons/curses I can dispell, and whether or not they are in range. All in a fairly compact and simple looking box. I have all my heals set to mouseover macros, so just mousing over the person's bar in the grid and pressing the hotkey gives a heal without needing to click/change targets. The rest of what you said I pretty much agree with word for word, just wanted to put in a couple things I've experienced. I agree with your analysis. You don’t need 1 of every type of healer, but it is nice. For awhile we had no 5 priests and 3 druids doing the heals. Didn’t stop us from numerous SSC kills, but it did kind of hurt our tier loot (with 2-3 shadow priests, 2 ferals, a moonkin, 2 prot warriors in the raid aswell… yay for 16/25 people with the same token!). As we made more and more progress though, it was easier to recruit more of the needed classes, and we now usually run with a very balanced raid, using just about every spec except for an ele sham. (Yes, we have moonkin, prot and ret palys, enh sham, fury warrior, all of which were in our first Kael kill). Having the balance in healer class is very nice, but by no means absolutely necessary.

For monitoring health/range, I use the Grid addon, which I have set up to show everyone’s health bars, my lifebloom timers on each person, an indicator that shows if they have other HoT’s on them, poisons/curses I can dispell, and whether or not they are in range. All in a fairly compact and simple looking box. I have all my heals set to mouseover macros, so just mousing over the person’s bar in the grid and pressing the hotkey gives a heal without needing to click/change targets.

The rest of what you said I pretty much agree with word for word, just wanted to put in a couple things I’ve experienced.

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