Comments on: How To: Properly Pickup Raid http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/ Practical advice for World of Warcraft healers and leaders Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:13:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: All-Star Blogging: October 26 – November 1 — Kestrel's Aerie http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-21907 All-Star Blogging: October 26 – November 1 — Kestrel's Aerie Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:57:43 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/#comment-21907 [...] gets the ball rolling (bouncing?) this week with his essay on properly PUGging raids. At this moment in time, the idea of answering "LF Priest for Kara then we’re GTG" [...] [...] gets the ball rolling (bouncing?) this week with his essay on properly PUGging raids. At this moment in time, the idea of answering "LF Priest for Kara then we’re GTG" [...]

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]]> By: Matticus http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-4844 Matticus Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:21:59 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/#comment-4844 Was referring to Wrath of Air, not Grace, thanks for the correction. And that's very odd. I could've sworn CS's showed up in the combat log. I know I've seen it recorded in other engagements. This interesting. Need to look it up. AI remember the day when the skellies couldn't be shackled and needed two tanks on them at all times. It was like a boss encounter unto it's own the first time we tried it. Was referring to Wrath of Air, not Grace, thanks for the correction.

And that’s very odd. I could’ve sworn CS’s showed up in the combat log. I know I’ve seen it recorded in other engagements. This interesting. Need to look it up.

AI remember the day when the skellies couldn’t be shackled and needed two tanks on them at all times. It was like a boss encounter unto it’s own the first time we tried it.

]]> By: All-Star Blogging: October 26 - November 1 | Kestrel’s Aerie http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-4840 All-Star Blogging: October 26 - November 1 | Kestrel’s Aerie Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:29:38 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/#comment-4840 [...] gets the ball rolling (bouncing?) this week with his essay on properly PUGging raids. At this moment in time, the idea of answering "LF Priest for Kara then we’re GTG" [...] [...] gets the ball rolling (bouncing?) this week with his essay on properly PUGging raids. At this moment in time, the idea of answering "LF Priest for Kara then we’re GTG" [...]

]]> By: Forsa http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-4838 Forsa Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:41:17 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/#comment-4838 Oh, and Pummel, Kick and Earthshock all do damage to the target in addition to interrupting spellcasting. Mages' Counterspell ability merely interrupts spellcasting and does not inflict any damage to the target. This is why it will not show up on WWS damage out logs. You can verify this by searching http://wowwebstats.com/ for Shade of Aran kill logs. Let me know if you can find a single record of a mage using Counterspell. Oh, and Pummel, Kick and Earthshock all do damage to the target in addition to interrupting spellcasting. Mages’ Counterspell ability merely interrupts spellcasting and does not inflict any damage to the target. This is why it will not show up on WWS damage out logs. You can verify this by searching http://wowwebstats.com/ for Shade of Aran kill logs. Let me know if you can find a single record of a mage using Counterspell.

]]> By: Forsa http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-4837 Forsa Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:06:20 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/#comment-4837 Huh? Grace of Air does nothing for healers, what benefit is increased agility to healing? Tranquil Air reduces the threat you put out through healing and DPS and is far more useful for that pull with the skeletal ushers you describe. Even if there is a tank in your group, you drop tanking totems (such as strength of earth) near where they're going to be tanking the mobs, then move well back and drop tranquil air for the ranged DPS and healers in your group. This way, the tank(s) in your group will not be in range of your tranquil air totem. Secondly, those skeletons you're talking about are special: They need two tanks to build threat on them at all times and for all other players to be below those two tanks on the threat list. The reason is because they perform a special ability on the MT which freezes them, at which point they switch aggro on to whoever's second below the tank on the threat list. Later on in Karazhan's life, Blizzard has nerfed them so that they can now be shackled, making them a lot easier to handle. Previously, they were immune to shackle, so when you pulled two, you had to tank each one and have the two tanks build aggro on each other's target at the same time. Huh? Grace of Air does nothing for healers, what benefit is increased agility to healing? Tranquil Air reduces the threat you put out through healing and DPS and is far more useful for that pull with the skeletal ushers you describe. Even if there is a tank in your group, you drop tanking totems (such as strength of earth) near where they’re going to be tanking the mobs, then move well back and drop tranquil air for the ranged DPS and healers in your group. This way, the tank(s) in your group will not be in range of your tranquil air totem.

Secondly, those skeletons you’re talking about are special: They need two tanks to build threat on them at all times and for all other players to be below those two tanks on the threat list. The reason is because they perform a special ability on the MT which freezes them, at which point they switch aggro on to whoever’s second below the tank on the threat list. Later on in Karazhan’s life, Blizzard has nerfed them so that they can now be shackled, making them a lot easier to handle. Previously, they were immune to shackle, so when you pulled two, you had to tank each one and have the two tanks build aggro on each other’s target at the same time.

]]> By: Matticus! http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-4697 Matticus! Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:56:57 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/#comment-4697 I was hoping I wouldn't have to put down the tranquil air. Myself and the other healers would've benefited from the increase from Grace of Air. I was hoping I wouldn’t have to put down the tranquil air. Myself and the other healers would’ve benefited from the increase from Grace of Air.

]]> By: Greatest http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/comment-page-1/#comment-4692 Greatest Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:52:56 +0000 http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/27/how-to-properly-pickup-raid/#comment-4692 Depending upon your dps on the skellies, it may have been the onus on you to drop tranquil air. In lieu of a pally, threat reduction takes precedence. Gimp players do more damage than dead ones. Should they be able to control their aggro? Yes. But during a real deal raid run, you're goal is to down bosses, not put out the leet dps. If you were fighting a timed encounter, then sure. Otherwise I am guessing the loss in dps due to deaths cost more time than the loss due to a change in totems. Depending upon your dps on the skellies, it may have been the onus on you to drop tranquil air. In lieu of a pally, threat reduction takes precedence. Gimp players do more damage than dead ones. Should they be able to control their aggro? Yes. But during a real deal raid run, you’re goal is to down bosses, not put out the leet dps. If you were fighting a timed encounter, then sure. Otherwise I am guessing the loss in dps due to deaths cost more time than the loss due to a change in totems.

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