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	<title>Comments on: 20 year old pretends to be woman to go after 16 year old high schooler in WoW</title>
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		<title>By: Gwyth</title>
		<link>http://www.worldofmatticus.com/2007/10/24/20-year-old-pretends-to-be-woman-to-go-after-16-year-old-high-schooler-in-wow/comment-page-1/#comment-4642</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only recently fount your site Matticus, and enjoy seeing your perspecive. I&#039;m a female gamer, and I was surprized to discover that one of our male tauren hunters was actually a female. She explained to us over vent that she doesnt want the whispers/special attention, so she rolled a male. Also, another guildie father was introducing his daughter to wow, but stressed that she had to play a male character for her first toon. This way she could hopefully avoid unwanted attention while learning the social aspect of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only recently fount your site Matticus, and enjoy seeing your perspecive. I&#8217;m a female gamer, and I was surprized to discover that one of our male tauren hunters was actually a female. She explained to us over vent that she doesnt want the whispers/special attention, so she rolled a male. Also, another guildie father was introducing his daughter to wow, but stressed that she had to play a male character for her first toon. This way she could hopefully avoid unwanted attention while learning the social aspect of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Tales from the Blog Lagoon: Oct. 19 - 25 &#124; Kestrel&#8217;s Aerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tales from the Blog Lagoon: Oct. 19 - 25 &#124; Kestrel&#8217;s Aerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posted an insightful article regarding gender identification in WoW, using the story of the high school girl in Washington State who was apparently stalked by a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kestrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Pike&quot;&gt;In the end I never really saw the big deal with Ã¢â‚¬Å“zomg girls play games too!Ã¢â‚¬ÂÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ My response is more of a Ã¢â‚¬Å“Yeah, I thought everybody knew that alreadyÃ¢â‚¬Â thing&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly the point I&#039;ve been getting at all week. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Pike"><p>In the end I never really saw the big deal with Ã¢â‚¬Å“zomg girls play games too!Ã¢â‚¬ÂÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ My response is more of a Ã¢â‚¬Å“Yeah, I thought everybody knew that alreadyÃ¢â‚¬Â thing</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly the point I&#8217;ve been getting at all week. <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matticus!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s okay Pike. Yours was the only one I could find under such short notice. You&#039;re on my Google Reader list for the time being until the next month when I rotate and refresh my blogroll. SO BE WARY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s okay Pike. Yours was the only one I could find under such short notice. You&#8217;re on my Google Reader list for the time being until the next month when I rotate and refresh my blogroll. SO BE WARY!</p>
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		<title>By: Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way that picture of me is horrible, if I was a guy I would have chosen a picture of a different girl to stick on there to fool people with.  Haha XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way that picture of me is horrible, if I was a guy I would have chosen a picture of a different girl to stick on there to fool people with.  Haha XD</p>
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		<title>By: Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh I got linked to... thank you very much for the link =D

To be 100% completely honest I&#039;d been wanting to post a pic of me on my blog for a while now, just because I think it&#039;s nice to have a face behind the words (maybe that&#039;s just me though) and I wanted to offer that, Kestrel&#039;s post provided me with a good excuse to go ahead and do so ;)  So it really is me, no trickery involved, though obviously I see your point (and I am in no way insinuating that you think the picture is not me, by the way!  I definitely understand you are just making a point.)

When online or on an online game or whatever, I like to point out as soon as I can that I am a girl, mainly so that the correct pronouns are used when referring to me (it&#039;s a bit disconcerting when people refer to me as &quot;he&quot;, which happens a lot-- I guess that&#039;s what happens when you play a female night elf? XD) but other than that it&#039;s not a big deal, honestly I don&#039;t think I&#039;m treated very differently when people think I&#039;m a guy vs. when people think I&#039;m a girl, maybe I&#039;m just not paying attention? *shrug*  Oh wait, okay, I do get the occasional cyber request, but a guy playing a girl toon would get that too, so the gender of the player is irrelevant there =P

In the end I never really saw the big deal with &quot;zomg girls play games too!&quot;... My response is more of a &quot;Yeah, I thought everybody knew that already&quot; thing, it&#039;s definitely fun to joke around with though, hence the post on my blog which was meant to be playful and silly ^^ as well as handily show my readers what the author actually looks like!  If you want to talk about a place where I really am one of the few females then let&#039;s talk about the Linux/open source community (which I am also a part of), there are &lt;i&gt;far&lt;/i&gt; more video-gamer-chicks than there are Linux-chicks like myself =P  So maybe I&#039;m just spoiled when I say that I don&#039;t see the whole &quot;girls playing video games&quot; thing as a big deal.

I really don&#039;t know where I&#039;m headed with this huge rambly comment, so thank you again for the link. =D  And I may now have to start keeping an eye on your blog, so... be afraid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh I got linked to&#8230; thank you very much for the link =D</p>
<p>To be 100% completely honest I&#8217;d been wanting to post a pic of me on my blog for a while now, just because I think it&#8217;s nice to have a face behind the words (maybe that&#8217;s just me though) and I wanted to offer that, Kestrel&#8217;s post provided me with a good excuse to go ahead and do so <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   So it really is me, no trickery involved, though obviously I see your point (and I am in no way insinuating that you think the picture is not me, by the way!  I definitely understand you are just making a point.)</p>
<p>When online or on an online game or whatever, I like to point out as soon as I can that I am a girl, mainly so that the correct pronouns are used when referring to me (it&#8217;s a bit disconcerting when people refer to me as &#8220;he&#8221;, which happens a lot&#8211; I guess that&#8217;s what happens when you play a female night elf? XD) but other than that it&#8217;s not a big deal, honestly I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m treated very differently when people think I&#8217;m a guy vs. when people think I&#8217;m a girl, maybe I&#8217;m just not paying attention? *shrug*  Oh wait, okay, I do get the occasional cyber request, but a guy playing a girl toon would get that too, so the gender of the player is irrelevant there =P</p>
<p>In the end I never really saw the big deal with &#8220;zomg girls play games too!&#8221;&#8230; My response is more of a &#8220;Yeah, I thought everybody knew that already&#8221; thing, it&#8217;s definitely fun to joke around with though, hence the post on my blog which was meant to be playful and silly ^^ as well as handily show my readers what the author actually looks like!  If you want to talk about a place where I really am one of the few females then let&#8217;s talk about the Linux/open source community (which I am also a part of), there are <i>far</i> more video-gamer-chicks than there are Linux-chicks like myself =P  So maybe I&#8217;m just spoiled when I say that I don&#8217;t see the whole &#8220;girls playing video games&#8221; thing as a big deal.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know where I&#8217;m headed with this huge rambly comment, so thank you again for the link. =D  And I may now have to start keeping an eye on your blog, so&#8230; be afraid?</p>
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		<title>By: Matticus!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matticus!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Athryn, sounds like a message board from the way you describe it. But after reading the Wikipedia article, I don&#039;t know what to think now. Looks like the infant stages of the internet. 

Kirk, it&#039;s unfortunate that language like that has evolved into everyday gaming use. I know I&#039;ve been guilty of using it on more than one occasion. I guess it&#039;s best to remain ever vigilant about the players we&#039;re with.

Dyn, okay, you win. I will concede the fact that the only sure fire 100% way of verifying identity is to meet that player in person at a LAN center so they can prove their character is theirs. That may or may not violate your rule number 1 however.

You know what would&#039;ve been funny? If they both turned out to be guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Athryn, sounds like a message board from the way you describe it. But after reading the Wikipedia article, I don&#8217;t know what to think now. Looks like the infant stages of the internet. </p>
<p>Kirk, it&#8217;s unfortunate that language like that has evolved into everyday gaming use. I know I&#8217;ve been guilty of using it on more than one occasion. I guess it&#8217;s best to remain ever vigilant about the players we&#8217;re with.</p>
<p>Dyn, okay, you win. I will concede the fact that the only sure fire 100% way of verifying identity is to meet that player in person at a LAN center so they can prove their character is theirs. That may or may not violate your rule number 1 however.</p>
<p>You know what would&#8217;ve been funny? If they both turned out to be guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Dynasor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dynasor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the story is concerned, that is  quite disturbing. And, as a father, I would find it unacceptable for a 16 yr old to be meeting-up with a 20 yr old that they met through the game under any circumstances. 

Also, the male-chauvinist-pig in me :) is a little offended at the amount of power you place into the female-gamers hands as well. The male gamers give them that power, and encourage the behavior you protest against when they &quot;give in&quot; to the &quot;flirty&quot; female&#039;s request(s). In my opinion, short of meeting the individual in person, there is no way to validate their gender or most anything else about them. So, I treat everyone the same (gender-neutral) and expect the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the story is concerned, that is  quite disturbing. And, as a father, I would find it unacceptable for a 16 yr old to be meeting-up with a 20 yr old that they met through the game under any circumstances. </p>
<p>Also, the male-chauvinist-pig in me <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  is a little offended at the amount of power you place into the female-gamers hands as well. The male gamers give them that power, and encourage the behavior you protest against when they &#8220;give in&#8221; to the &#8220;flirty&#8221; female&#8217;s request(s). In my opinion, short of meeting the individual in person, there is no way to validate their gender or most anything else about them. So, I treat everyone the same (gender-neutral) and expect the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, &quot;What we can do.&quot;

It&#039;s largely a matter of awareness.  No, I&#039;m wrong.  It&#039;s a matter of ACTING on our awareness.  &quot;Dude, WTF, why&#039;d you give that stranger 1000 gold?&quot;

Or my personal bugaboo.  &quot;Dude, we raped him.&quot;  I tolerate a lot of language - have no problem with most gutterals and anglo-saxon terms and so forth.  That one, though... it&#039;s got a contextual undertone that perpetuates what I see as a major problem.  I know from bitter experience what happens if I try to squelch it in general chat - direct or whisper.  But when seen by a guildie or in a group, I let them know that for a number of reasons I&#039;d rather they didn&#039;t use that term.

shrug - ymmv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, &#8220;What we can do.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s largely a matter of awareness.  No, I&#8217;m wrong.  It&#8217;s a matter of ACTING on our awareness.  &#8220;Dude, WTF, why&#8217;d you give that stranger 1000 gold?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or my personal bugaboo.  &#8220;Dude, we raped him.&#8221;  I tolerate a lot of language &#8211; have no problem with most gutterals and anglo-saxon terms and so forth.  That one, though&#8230; it&#8217;s got a contextual undertone that perpetuates what I see as a major problem.  I know from bitter experience what happens if I try to squelch it in general chat &#8211; direct or whisper.  But when seen by a guildie or in a group, I let them know that for a number of reasons I&#8217;d rather they didn&#8217;t use that term.</p>
<p>shrug &#8211; ymmv</p>
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		<title>By: Athryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Athryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, I feel old now. :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system

BBSes were the online communities that predated the internet. :) They had the same kinds of communities though, albeit on a smaller, more local level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I feel old now. <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system</a></p>
<p>BBSes were the online communities that predated the internet. <img src='http://www.worldofmatticus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  They had the same kinds of communities though, albeit on a smaller, more local level.</p>
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